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  • Uncertain
    Uncertain Posts: 3,901 Forumite

    i genuinely didn't see it as a breach of confidentiality as it was a private group with only fellow employees in it , i didn't see it , and still don't , as any different to sending a text.

    The difference is that it is far easier (as you have found out) to be seen by other people.


    As for disscussing clients in a negative manner , i think they'd be needing to sack 95% of the workforce if that is classed as gross misconduct.

    Completely irrelevant I'm afraid. They are under no obligation to discipline different employees in the same way for the same offence.

    I reffered to office staff as 'useless' in a thread i'd put on about my wages being wrong again , which they have been every payday since i started so it was factual.

    You should have taken this up with your boss or whoever in in charge of the office. Would you have pinned up a notice to this effect?

    In the early days of personal computers, long before the internet, somebody said "A computer is like an unlocked filing cabinet with a built in photocopier"! Now it has a built in phone and television as well!
  • oh I agree i'm sacked , I'm not holding any hope of keeping my job. It's a family run business , no HR just 4 family memebrs who run everything. Over 80 staff , all replaceable very easily in this climate. They're not going to put theirselves out or take the embarrasment of me showing them up , on the chin. It's a very impersonal comapany , we're very much numbers on sheets , rarely see or speak with the bosses.

    I'm more concerned with getting a new job and my cv with a bloomin sacking on it!

    How would this happen? What could/would you to do show them up?
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    They're not going to put theirselves out or take the embarrasment of me showing them up , on the chin.

    You are so stuffed!

    With that attitude you are lucky to have lasted four months....
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • Mischa8
    Mischa8 Posts: 659 Forumite
    miduck wrote: »
    You're screwed. You can see how fundamentally wrong this is, can't you?

    That's the feeling I'm getting too.

    Also, Facebook/email etc *faux pas* have been in the media a lot in the past few years, this individual (even worse since he has a partner and kids, therefore one would expect more maturity) seems to have not thought of the consequences at all.

    He obviously values !!!!!ing with staff about clients more than his job. He doesn't seem to have thought about how short a time he's been in job (apart from passed probation period). In fact, this post would give a clear indication to bosses (his) that he really doesn't like/want his job very much, hence the level of griping.

    Pub/coffee shop is best place for speaking about work and even then, ensure it's with people you trust who won't go brown-nosing to top dogs.
  • madison-nyc
    madison-nyc Posts: 576 Forumite
    edited 4 November 2012 at 3:31PM
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    madison-nyc Posts: 576 Forumite
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  • Uncertain
    Uncertain Posts: 3,901 Forumite
    Swipe wrote: »
    If you use them as a reference all they need to do it to confirm the dates you started and finished worked there and offer no more information which is the policy of most HR depts anyway.

    I wouldn't agree with "most". Certainly some, arguably many but I think it varies in different industries.

    The problem is the OP has no real bargaining position. Unless she can somehow argue unlawful discrimination (and it seems very unlikely) they don't even have to give her a reason for dismissal.

    As I have frequently pointed out on here a reference only needs to be true and not deliberately misleading. The firm would be quite entitled to say "dismissed for gross misconduct" or even give full details providing they gat their facts right.
  • Mischa8
    Mischa8 Posts: 659 Forumite
    oh I agree i'm sacked , I'm not holding any hope of keeping my job. It's a family run business , no HR just 4 family memebrs who run everything. Over 80 staff , all replaceable very easily in this climate. They're not going to put theirselves out or take the embarrasment of me showing them up , on the chin. It's a very impersonal comapany , we're very much numbers on sheets , rarely see or speak with the bosses.

    Hold on a sec, in one breath you say "it's a family run business, in the next you say things about *very impersonal and numbers on sheets* - a few family companies I've worked with, yes, with that number of staff, they are MOST CONCERNED about their employees but also the fact that their employees like their work and enjoy, to a certain extent what they do. And yes, in this company they did *mess up* once with a member of staff over a HR issue (he won). It just seems like you have little or no respect for them/the company to even contemplate setting up this silly Facebook page. That's the way they see it. Resign by all means but don't hold out hope for a glowing reference.
  • Swipe
    Swipe Posts: 5,778 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Not sure why some are giving the OP a hard time. She knows she's messed up and is asking for advice rather than a lecture.
  • Mischa8
    Mischa8 Posts: 659 Forumite
    edited 4 November 2012 at 3:06PM
    Madison= she

    Level or griping? one client was mentioned in a convo between two of us , in a joke. The only other 'gripe' was my wages ebing wrong for the 4th time in a row. Wouldn't really call it a high level or griping??

    also you said in your original para (can't be bothered to link) that it was a gripe about a client in a negative light. Negative light to me does not = joke!

    But why bother to mention a client, in a joke on an accessible media page? Also, how ON EARTH are your bosses meant to know how/why/what you've said, about a client or otherwise?? Suppose this page had got to the attention somehow of the client or outside world? If you have a *gripe* about your wages then speak to payroll or bosses.

    Sorry if I got your sex wrong.
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