MSE News: How cheap is the iPad Mini?

System

mrochester wrote: »

I have told you over and over and over again. Refer back to all my previous posts that told you why I think it's better.

but you have never used it

d123

the_r_sole wrote: »

it's reserved for the "ipad mini s" to be released in a few months

GPS will actually be included in the WIFI/Cellular model of the Mini that you can order now for delivery towards the end of November.

As with every iPad so far, wifi model = no GPS, wifi/cellular version = GPS.

Dreamnine

d123 wrote: »

Maps will still be included, as it was on the iPad 1, 2, and 3 WIFI models and Touch. It just uses a less precise wifi system for location.

Why omit it, though? Cheap phones have GPS nowadays.

One more fail for Apple. I've downloaded maps for offline use, gone out into the countryside and been able to use them on my Nexus 7.

System

d123 wrote: »

GPS will actually be included in the WIFI/Cellular model of the Mini that you can order now for delivery towards the end of November.

As with every iPad so far, wifi model = no GPS, wifi/cellular version = GPS.

apologies, that was a joke
(a bit like the photo of the sign at the tube station)

d123

Dreamnine wrote: »

Why omit it, though? Cheap phones have GPS nowadays.
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I've highlighted the reason, cheap phones are exactly that, phones, and the GPS at the cheaper end is incorporated into the radio chip. It doesn't cost anything to add it into a phone (and probably the same reason the cellular iPad gets it included), it's on the same chip as the cellular radio.

the_r_sole wrote: »

apologies, that was a joke
(a bit like the photo of the sign at the tube station)

tlh858

Dreamnine wrote: »

I'm sure the iPad Mini will sell...but it's an expensive and sub-par offering from Apple with dated tech and quite limited appeal

Just like every other Apple product then.

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Want fancy pants 3D maps on your PC? Go here - http://maps.nokia.com/webgl/

mrochester

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Want fancy pants 3D maps on your PC? Go here - http://maps.nokia.com/webgl/

tlh858 wrote: »

Just like every other Apple product then.

Most of the time I think people like you are just being silly, but sometimes I genuinely think some of you are completely out of touch with the market!

[Deleted User]

mrochester wrote: »

Most of the time I think people like you are just being silly, but sometimes I genuinely think some of you are completely out of touch with the market!

Have you actually seen the nokia 3d maps? They're practically identical to the 3d maps on iOS. I just tried putting them side by side (i found a view over the london Eye, towards St Thomas's hospital). The main difference was that the Nokia map has far larger coverage of london - so you see more 3D buildings in the background. Nokia also layer more
information interactively into the map.

FYI - Nokia has been making massive investments in mapping tech for several years now

I don't count myself as bleeding, or even cutting edge. I'll let silly rich people be the early adopters - but i'm usually not too far behind them.

I've had to develop software in the past. I know just how hard it can be to make usable software. It's a hard thing to measure - unlike features. I realise what a good move Apple made in developing kit that 'just works' - however, it is always at the expense of features... it's just the nature of usability. To be honest, i'm bright enough to not require the simplicity of iOS. i want to be able to do 'super user' things (e.g. I'd written a tool that did the 'do not disturb' feature of iOS 2 years ago on my android phone.. but mine also replied automatically to text messages saying i was unavailable).

mrochester

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Have you actually seen the nokia 3d maps? They're practically identical to the 3d maps on iOS. I just tried putting them side by side (i found a view over the london Eye, towards St Thomas's hospital). The main difference was that the Nokia map has far larger coverage of london - so you see more 3D buildings in the background. Nokia also layer more
information interactively into the map.

FYI - Nokia has been making massive investments in mapping tech for several years now

I don't count myself as bleeding, or even cutting edge. I'll let silly rich people be the early adopters - but i'm usually not too far behind them.

I've had to develop software in the past. I know just how hard it can be to make usable software. It's a hard thing to measure - unlike features. I realise what a good move Apple made in developing kit that 'just works' - however, it is always at the expense of features... it's just the nature of usability. To be honest, i'm bright enough to not require the simplicity of iOS. i want to be able to do 'super user' things (e.g. I'd written a tool that did the 'do not disturb' feature of iOS 2 years ago on my android phone.. but mine also replied automatically to text messages saying i was unavailable).

Yeah I used the Nokia 3D maps about a year ago or so when they first came out. I had assumed that Apple must be licensing the tech from Nokia since its so similar.