Parking Eye sent me a bill for parking in the street

muckybutt

sharealike wrote: »

I was in Green Street. An old well known Huddersfield street.

What you need to do Monday morning is get in touch with Kirklees council Highways dept.
You need to ask if Green St from its junction with Fitzwillliam St and the junction of St Johns road is council owned or is a private unadopted road.

It might take a few days to get the info from them they are a council after all !

As I said earlier IF its private then they "did you correctly" if you were parked there regardless of whether you were in one of their bays or not, you were on their land were you not ?. IF its council land then you have a BIG case against them, so will the BPA and the council - Trading Standards etc and the press will love it.

Untill you have found out who the road belongs to all you can do is ignore.

Thankyou for the info, if only you had done this from the start there wouldnt be a thread some 5 pages long and a lot of frustrated users thinking you were on the wind up.

Coupon-mad

So @sharealike, the next thing is definitely to email Kirklees Council with the GSV link and ask them is this public highway or private land?

And like all other newbies on here you only have to ask how to get around the temporary restriction on posting links.

You can show us your pics and the GSV chain link page by simply 'breaking' your link before submitting your reply. Just remove the http:// and then we can add it back in and re-post them as working links.

sharealike

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Why worry, don't bother to waste your time and money on them, ignoring is a lot cheaper and very effective. Should they ever try to do court (never ) come back.Till then relax.

Well they are trying court. Whole nine yards.


Hardly ever visit that part of town so to be 100% certain I visited the land again to check layout and just how the cameras are reading your numbers. I first thought the cameras moved and had followed me in the street where I parked but in daylight can see they are fixed.


Their ANPR has not recorded me leaving the service road after first drive through. Dark and wet and busy with walkers so could be due to pedestrians walking round my rear, wet reflections or just the angle of the plate.


No signs on service road I used round the edge of the car park close enough to edge of road that you could read while driving. Well certainly not at night while driving which it was. Very dark and wet. No lights for the signs.


Second reading can only be me reversing in to turn round. Knew I did reverse into a side road from the main road but at the time never thought it could be the exit to the same car parks service road as its even in another street and no signs at all.

Umkomaas

How did you get on when contacting the Council's Highways Department?

peter_the_piper

[STRIKE]2 years on???[/STRIKE] 1 year and 2 months on. I was asked to correct this to save confusion.

sharealike

Umkomaas wrote: »

How did you get on when contacting the Council's Highways Department?

No need in the end. Their senior parking officer explained the confusion in that area because Google Maps shows a street and name where there is no street. They confirmed where I did park was definitely a public street in their pay and display bays.


And of greater concern to me was the PPC did not respond to my appeal and provide POPLA number for over five months!!!!!


At this point I just lost all faith in the new system and decided the best policy was ignore it all.


Is this earlier statement of time scales correct?

sharealike wrote: »

Thank you once again Coupon-Mad for clear concise and believeable advice.

Parking Eye or the BPA members code of conduct says they have fourteen days to respnd to my appeal. They will not discuss the details over the phone when I tried. Found a non-premium rate number for them. Person who answered was in Chorley but this number is for Preston 01772 450970.

Looks as if this could be fourteen days and nights of psychological harrasment. More so as this period will run concurrently with the period for which the charge is discounted.

So they can put me in this deliberately harrasing situation for two weeks or more asking for money I don't owe. All based on false evidence. And the law of this land and all those organisations who are involved offer nothing to get it stopped immediately?

I stress again - of greater concern to me was the PPC did not respond to my appeal and provide POPLA number for over five months!!!!!

Having left me to stew for five months, not just fourteen days I thought they were still trying it on. Until the Northampton Court action started that is.


Even worse as it's not nice spending the last twelve months wondering if every letter dropping on the mat was from Parking Eye.

peter_the_piper

Despite the fact they were late in sending the popla number /(this would have helped you win in any case) you were remiss in ignoring it.

sharealike

I did responded to Northampton.


Worked it out that car entered the service road round the car park twice that night but did not park in said car park at all. Just used once having taken wrong turn. Second time to turn round in. There are two entrances to this service road from two different public roads. Dark and you don't see any signs until after the cameras pick you up. Not a regular to that part of town. At the time I did not even realise it was the same bit of land.
One entrance has unlit no entry signs but they are not standard road signs. One no entry sign is under a railway bridge, other shielded from view while in the road by a tree so even street lighting does not reach them.
Signs advising of time and charge for overstay are not visible in the dark from the service road while driving in any case. They are not lit. Might be reflective but if your lights are on dip there is nothing to reflect back to you.


I rang Northampton - Case is now Stayed.


Latest letter from Parking Eye says they want to proceed with this County Court claim. It does not ask me to do anything. Just a wad of standard pictures of later signs (admit they not the ones at the time), all previous letters except my appeal to them and an attempt by them to discredit my defence.


Will they go to independent arbitration before court? And will this be a real opportunity face to face to show them what happened with pictures and drawings so they finally understand and leave me alone?
I find it hard to believe their solicitors do not appear to know the layout of the sites. Make them more efficient than the current paper bamboozling I'm seeing from my end.

sharealike

Scrootum wrote: »

Are you not getting this a little out of proportion?

I don't think so. Next stage looks to be court and costs to be met for something I am not responsible for. Not to mention risk of a County Court judgement against me for the rest of my life.


Their solicitor says I have used "standard template defence distributed to motorists attempting to avoid paying parking charges by internet forums. The defendant has been ill advised by those on the internet".


I don't believe this but help is required rather than hindrance please. Or do I also have this out of proportion?

peter_the_piper

I suggest you also put all these details on pepipoo.com, they are very good at holding a drivers hand whilst fighting the dark side.