ryan air not cheap!! read this don't get stung!

MarkyMarkD

averi wrote: »

Ryan air has made travel easier and cheaper for someof us who can fly from their nearest airport to European cities. So far safety is concerned -then I think it is better than national rail

Rail is an incredibly safe method of travel, so I'm not sure that this comment was warranted.

ynot2005

although im a big ryanair fan, with good reason because of their service on countless flights, there is a noticeable difference in the cabin crew between them and easyjet, its nothing to with being unsafe or less professional its just that ryanair cabin crew do seem more stressed, moody, poker faced and gennerally give the impression of not being happy in their jobs

whereas watching easyjet cabin crew smile and have a laugh/banter with each other and just look relaxed and content with their lot, this does make the flying experience better with them

this isnt a casual one off observation , but something thats quite evident over dozens of flights with both companies

and the comment about BA staff being up there own ba**ks**es is something i agree with also

thank god for ryanair/easyjet.

peterbaker

MarkyMarkD wrote: »

Rail is an incredibly safe method of travel, so I'm not sure that this comment was warranted.

Ehm...are you in the UK, Mark??

I recall we have now had at least three major fatal accidents in the last few years associated with non-existent rail maintenance (like missing or broken nuts and bolts?) alone.

That doesn't include Paddington, and it doesn't include Underground derailments.

There is nothing incredibly safe about that it...in fact it would be far truer to say the opposite i.e. it is an incredibly unsafe method of travel in the UK.

That's because based on the continuing missing nuts and bolts record it shows that the routine rail maintainers actually learned absolutely nothing after Hatfield.

I am completely amazed that no-one went to prison over it.

I actually went to see Railtrack's safety people in Marylebone in about 2000 I think, because as a regular commuter on the Hatfield Potters Bar line I was appalled by the trackside maintenance debris left right next to the line at Potters Bar which indicated total disregard for order. I was actually concerned mostly about vandals using short lengths of rail and other portable steel items to derail trains. I didn't realise that the disorder was such that no vandals were required (in the normal sense).

Potters Bar happened after that, and although the whole network was virtally brought to a standstill for months on end while billions were spent on an upgrade I still don't believe there has been any general improvement in the standard of the routine inspections and remedial maintenance. Do you?

celyn90

I travel with Ryanair alot as OH's parents live close to Frankfurt Hahn. I only ever take hand luggage and it's never been weighed, but maybe I've been lucky. I've found them polite and efficent so far and the service/flights have been flawless and on time. You can pick up a bottle of water after security and take something to eat if you want, but I don't usually bother.

I flew with BA to Scotland for work a few months ago (40 min flight time) and they kept trying to feed me even though I politely declined (three times) and I'm allergic to the prawn salad they were trying to give me and was fine without the alcohol they offered as an alternative! Although the cabin crew were lovely and polite (as they always are) and just trying to help/make sure I was okay I felt like accepting the offer on the third attempt just to make a point with exorcist style vomiting. Reminded me of Mrs Doyle from Father Ted... are you sure you won't have a cup of tea...go on, go on...

In all my flights, it's the bus from Oxford to Stanstead that I hate more than anything. If I'm going to get a bloodclot, dehydrate, die of boredem, get convicted of assault when I forcibly insert Mr-I-Will-Play-Every-Ringtone-My-Phone-Has-More-Than-Once-So-You-Can-All-Hear-What-Carp-I've-Been-Downloading's mp3player/gameboy/brand new phone into a suitable orifice, it's going to happen around High Wycombe. :rotfl: :rotfl:

flossy_splodge

2 weeks ago was looking for a cheap flight from italy for my daughter and then a flight back to Italy post Easter. Alitalia were the cheapest in both directions, courtesy came as standard, food and drink included and an enjoyable flight ensued. Personally I would rather not fly at all than fly Ryanair as i dont like what I have seen of O'leary but it seems there is no need to do anything much you dont want to so those of us that feel the need have other options. Alitalia have got 10 out of 10 from my daughter and thats good enough for me.:T

PBA

celyn90 wrote: »

In all my flights, it's the bus from Oxford to Stansted that I hate more than anything.

Agree 100%!!! I was on the bus back from Stansted once when we sat in Wycombe bus station for 30 mins, nobody got on or off. I could have been tucked up in bed so much earlier if we hadn't had to make that pointless stop!

Sam_Bee

peterbaker wrote: »

Ehm...are you in the UK, Mark??

I recall we have now had at least three major fatal accidents in the last few years associated with non-existent rail maintenance (like missing or broken nuts and bolts?) alone.

That doesn't include Paddington, and it doesn't include Underground derailments.

There is nothing incredibly safe about that it...in fact it would be far truer to say the opposite i.e. it is an incredibly unsafe method of travel in the UK.

That's actually factually wrong, to suit your needs.

Up until the Cumbria crash, we've had the longest accident-free period in the railways 175 year history. Or 0.2 fatalities every year over the past 5 years. (1). That's not bad for 2.3 billion UK train journeys every year (and growing). So does that not make your chance of dying on the railways 1 in 11.5 billion everytime you take the train??

Per passenger mile, planes are the safest form of transport.

It's driving that's your everyday killer that we all undertake without a second thought. The roads kill 63 people every week. (2)

(1) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6392533.stm
(2) http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1208

mcfisco

Without the likes of Ryanair et al - air travel from regional airports outside of the SE would be prohibitive on cost & time.
I live in the NE & for years I had to drive to London or Manchester in order to take a lot of flights that I neede for work, now I can simply hop on a flying bus that will either take me to my final destination or cheaply take me to an airport for my main flight, Amsterdam, Gatwick etc.
BA & the like used to reularly take the p**s with the prices for domestic flights

peterbaker

Sam_Bee wrote: »

That's actually factually wrong, to suit your needs.

It's driving that's your everyday killer that we all undertake without a second thought. The roads kill 63 people every week.

My needs are to receive patently safe transportation if I pay someone to provide it. I am not interested in spin that says well compared to this or that it isn't too bad is it? I know all about the assessment of risk and contractual risk transferance. If I buy a ticket, I no longer carry the risk myself. I am paying someone to manage the risk well so that I can close my eyes.

So in your illustration, Sam Bee, you are overlooking one very important thing ... most of us don't buy tickets to travel on the roads. And even if we do buy a bus ticket, we might end up on a Terravision bus that weaves down the road like a motorbike out of London at four thirty on a Friday afternoon, or something else which ends up on its side at Heathrow at midnight.

There is a huge difference between paying for safety in an assumed safe public transport system, and taking your own risk in or on your own vehicle alongside others doing their own thing too.

milkydrink

in_my_wellies wrote: »

My son went on a school trip to France last week and flew with Ryan Air. He packed a large kit bag and it weighed just under 9Kg and it was full. It was as much as he needed and more than enough for him to carry. His hand baggage weighed just over 1 1/2Kg and could have been 10Kg

15Kg would be a huge amount of stuff. Some people really must take the kitchen sink!

The average "lightweight" suitcase weights 5 kg alone!!!!
Its very easy to go over the limit.