MSE News: George Osborne to make £10bn welfare cuts

Ellejmorgan

looking4luck wrote: »

I only came on here to talk about the 28billion pound benefit cuts David Cameron and Osbourne are pushing through, and you have hounded me since my first post. And if you look at my stats you will see it was my first ever post!

I have never talked about his son dying until you brought it up, your right David Cameron son passing has nothing to do with this and it should be left alone, so why don't you leave it, and let the forum go back to the subject of benefit cuts.

Yes if you do...

I did not say that you talked about his son, I said that because his son is gone it shouldn't be discussed..

I've done no such thing, hounded you, you stated I wasn't right in the head, so how did I hound you..

Now let go of it, and yes I'm aware you are new which is why i'm being so tolerant of you..

Anny_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

I'm surprised about that because there are regular questions about it on MSE.

Many councils give people the impression that DLA is a criterion for getting a blue badge (AA doesn't have a mobility component which I would have thought you would have known). This not only puts people off applying for one if they're not claimants and saves the council the expense of doing their own assessments.

If there are regular questions about if you need DLA for a blue badge on MSE then I have missed them all. Although the focus of my reason for being here in the first place was nothing to do with the blue badge scheme so maybe I have just not registered those posts.

I do know there is no mobility component to AA and personally think this is wrong - but that is another debate.

I always knew that assessment for a blue badge was made on the disability and not your benefits, although those in receipt of HR mobility automatically qualify...but I have not seen evidence of people claiming DLA, in order to be eligible for a blue badge.

mazza111

looking4luck wrote: »

Sounds so frustrating being found fit by one doctor but not another! I hope she gets put into the right group.

Yes, she will eventually. Especially now that she's got a diagnosis which does help no matter what people say. I should add that these days she would meet the criteria for the support group. At the time of her medical she met the criteria of WRAG. For her DLA she was examined by one of their doctors. For her ESA she wasn't examined at all. They didn't even ask about her mobile joints that caused her problems at the time. All they looked at was her MH problems which are mainly (not all) a results of her joint problems. I'm sure you can understand, no 21 year old wants to be stuck indoors most of the day because she's not fit enough to go out.

I know the descriptors are different krisskross that doesn't mean ATOS are doing their job properly. They completely ignored the fact that my daughter has this condition and there is no mention of it on their report. I fear it's just a case of they've never heard of it, so they stick their head in the sand.


As for the whole DC thing, I said you said she said he said....

I do feel DC was hypocritical claiming a benefit for his child when they didn't need it. However, as the child is now dead, I feel for them both, losing a child has to be one of the hardest things in the world to deal with. Think that needs to be taken into perspective. Everyone's getting so defensive over the he said she said thing. But it would be a little ironic if he wants to means test DLA now....

seven-day-weekend

mazza111 wrote: »

Yes, she will eventually. Especially now that she's got a diagnosis which does help no matter what people say. I should add that these days she would meet the criteria for the support group. At the time of her medical she met the criteria of WRAG. For her DLA she was examined by one of their doctors. For her ESA she wasn't examined at all. They didn't even ask about her mobile joints that caused her problems at the time. All they looked at was her MH problems which are mainly (not all) a results of her joint problems. I'm sure you can understand, no 21 year old wants to be stuck indoors most of the day because she's not fit enough to go out.

I know the descriptors are different krisskross that doesn't mean ATOS are doing their job properly. They completely ignored the fact that my daughter has this condition and there is no mention of it on their report. I fear it's just a case of they've never heard of it, so they stick their head in the sand.


As for the whole DC thing, I said you said she said he said....

I do feel DC was hypocritical claiming a benefit for his child when they didn't need it. However, as the child is now dead, I feel for them both, losing a child has to be one of the hardest things in the world to deal with. Think that needs to be taken into perspective. Everyone's getting so defensive over the he said she said thing. But it would be a little ironic if he wants to means test DLA now....

But people on here say you should claim if entitled. DC's son was entitled to DLA. Therefore, in the opinions of many, he should claim it, even if not needing the money.

It depends upon what you think the purpose of DLA is. If it is an income enhancer, then it should be means-tested. If it is to help pay for the associated costs of disability, then why should one disabled person be entitled and not another?

Just food for thought.

ab.da54

mazza111 wrote: »

I've also just bought one of these which are excellent!!

http://www.lidl-service.com/cps/rde/SID-4718D340-E3300A75/lsp/hs.xsl/product.html?id=9093148&title=Neck%20&%20Shoulder%20Heating%20Pad

£16.99 from Lidl, around the £40 mark on ebay :T:T:T Very MSE!

How have you got on with this mazza111, please?

Dunroamin

Anny wrote: »

If there are regular questions about if you need DLA for a blue badge on MSE then I have missed them all. Although the focus of my reason for being here in the first place was nothing to do with the blue badge scheme so maybe I have just not registered those posts.

.

As I don't like being called a liar, I've had a quick skim through of relevant posts over the last 6 months.

You will notice that at least two councils actually tell people that DLA HRM is a requirement for getting a blue badge.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/56000691#Comment_56000691

Post #5

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/55259763#Comment_55259763

Post #6 and #7

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/52729297#Comment_52729297

Post #4 (Even Elle didn't know!)

looking4luck

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

But people on here say you should claim if entitled. DC's son was entitled to DLA. Therefore, in the opinions of many, he should claim it, even if not needing the money.

It depends upon what you think the purpose of DLA is. If it is an income enhancer, then it should be means-tested. If it is to help pay for the associated costs of disability, then why should one disabled person be entitled and not another?

Just food for thought.

I think the DLA benefit is there to help people who need it, to live their day to day lives, I don't think one person should be able to claim and another not.

DC recently praised the para Olympians at the same time hes cutting disability benefits by 10billion, and another 17billion in 2015/16.

I would of thought the fact he has had someone close to him endure a disability he would realise the money they are given is vital to their involvement in everyday life, but with the new pip system being set up by DC and I quote there will be "more rigorous system of medical assessments" show how not only out of touch but how heartless he is being.

It's is estimated that 1/2 million will not receive DLA after going through the new pip testing process and with that DC still says and i quote again “we are not cutting the money that is going into supporting disability”.

looking4luck

I am lucky in the fact that I am healthy both in body and (mind(mostly), I have claimed in the past, and so know how daunting and stressful it is to have to claim, go to medicals etc. I work but do not begrudge paying tax to help people with disability's run a day to day life, probably because I've been there myself.

My uncle had and died last year from cancer, and the whole process of getting him any benefits was horrendous, don't wish that on anyone.

ab.da54

Dunroamin wrote: »

But don't you think that Attlee, Bevan et al would be revolving in their graves if they could see what the Welfare State had become?

Absolutely.

The biggest disgrace is those who have child after child, knowing they do not have the financial means to support them, but, not to worry, the state will pick up the tab.

Parents like that should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

mazza111

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

But people on here say you should claim if entitled. DC's son was entitled to DLA. Therefore, in the opinions of many, he should claim it, even if not needing the money.

It depends upon what you think the purpose of DLA is. If it is an income enhancer, then it should be means-tested. If it is to help pay for the associated costs of disability, then why should one disabled person be entitled and not another?

Just food for thought.

Actually in all honesty, he should have claimed it. However, now he's thinking of means testing... That's the bit I found hypocritical. His record of attacking the sick is the bit that gets to me

looking4luck wrote: »

DC recently praised the para Olympians at the same time hes cutting disability benefits by 10billion, and another 17billion in 2015/16.

This is exactly the bit I find hypocritical too.

ab.da54 wrote: »

How have you got on with this mazza111, please?

Absolutely brilliant ad.da54. Love it!!!! The only thing I have to be wary of as using heat as pain relief is the heat can relax the muscles too much then I get some subluxing, although not full dislocations. I wouldn't use it on my dd for example as she may fully d/locate. But on the whole 10/10 !!!!!! Lidl are doing the ones for lower back this week I believe. If there's one fault with it, and it's not a fault, it's the fasteners to "hold" it on. I just can't stand anything round my neck. Easy though, it still stays in place even when not fastened.

HRM is an automatic generated for BB afaik, however you can get a bb without being in receipt of any sort of DLA with a doctors backing, and you may need to go for an assessment.

Again it's going back to he said she said you said I said. It's all there in black and white. We all know who said. Difference of opinions.