MSE News: George Osborne to make £10bn welfare cuts

Dunroamin

Ellejmorgan wrote: »

Are you serious, you laughed about me being refused DLA, you wasn't listening to the reasons and constantly tried to find a loop hole to try to make me out as a liar..

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You must have been reading a different thread.

I certainly did not laugh at your being refused DLA and I offered you several positive pieces of advice regarding your future which you didn't have the courtesy to thank.

I'm not going to argue with you because you are obviously in a vulnerable place but perhaps you should go back and read the posts when you're more rational.

Ellejmorgan

Dunroamin wrote: »

You must have been reading a different thread.

I certainly did not laugh at your being refused DLA and I offered you several positive pieces of advice regarding your future which you didn't have the courtesy to thank.

I'm not going to argue with you because you are obviously in a vulnerable place but perhaps you should go back and read the posts when you're more rational.

I apologise I'm sorry, I got you muddled with someone else, it was Sunnyone who laughed..

Humble apologies

Dunroamin

Ellejmorgan wrote: »

I apologise I'm sorry, I got you muddled with someone else, it was Sunnyone who laughed..

Humble apologies

Apology accepted.:)

wattdallas

Dunroamin wrote: »

Fortunately, because he still manages to exercise within the house, something the older generation of lung patients were discouraged from doing, my husband can usually manage to dress himself and use the shower. Also, the fewer people he has contact with, the less chance he has of getting an infection which is what normally kills most people in that situation.

Also fortunately, I'm ten years younger than he is and can physically manage any care he needs, as well as fight for him to be put on oxygen, which is the only thing that helps people with emphysema to live longer.

However, thanks for your kind suggestions.

I'm glad that your husband can manage to dress and bathe himself because if he could not it would be physically exhausting even impossible for you to do. Imagine if this happened when you were both much younger and just starting out ,when you haven't paid into private pensions .And one of you had to give up work and care ,sure you wouldn't have claimed dla and carers then ? You see some have had disabilities from birth or early on in life and some later in life. Don't judge until you have been in THEIR shoes.

krisskross

wattdallas wrote: »

I'm glad that your husband can manage to dress and bathe himself because if he could not it would be physically exhausting even impossible for you to do. Imagine if this happened when you were both much younger and just starting out ,when you haven't paid into private pensions .And one of you had to give up work and care ,sure you wouldn't have claimed dla and carers then ? You see some have had disabilities from birth or early on in life and some later in life. Don't judge until you have been in THEIR shoes.

I don't think dunroamin was judging anyone for their choices. She simply pointed out that HER HUSBAND, not actually her, chose not to claim disability benefits for his own reasons.

sunnyone

Dunroamin wrote: »

If someone gets all self righteous and says "I don't get DLA" when the only reason they don't is because it's been refused, don't you find that ironic?

I think irony is lost on many people here.

Anny wrote: »

No, I don't find that ironic, the poster was telling the truth 'she does not get DLA'. What I personally find ironic is that Sunnyone actually does get DLA yet is among the first to berate others for getting it or claiming for it, along of course with some others who also claim related disability benefits.

That is the main problem on this forum some people believe they have the monopoly on being disabled and only they are 'entitled' to disability benefits...sad!

I also find it rather ironic that supposedly, according to themselves, educated posters would thank Sunnyone for a post that is at best very immature - using emoticons inappropriately - and at worst is downright spiteful and nasty.

Other posters suggesting Ellejmorgan was 'caught out' or is only attempting to claim DLA because 'its greed though isn't it' are, in my opinion, in the first instance - immature - and in the second, disgustingly insulting, because if a person is claiming DLA for the reason of being disabled, and why else would they be claiming? and if they have evidence of that disability that is required by the DWP - then where does greed come into it?

I am severely disabled and get high rate mobility and high rate care, Ive never made a secret of that, I am a full time (NHS, Im not an ebay crip) powerchair user who has very limited use of my arms and hands, Im also profoundly (L)/severely (R) deaf so my DLA has never been in doubt (I also have other illnesses/disabilities such as RA but these dont really come into it), nor has my ESA claim which is contributions based support group for three years on transfer from IB based on the forms only.

I also get child benefit for my 16 year old child, and a band reduction in council tax because Im a fulltime wheelchair user. This is the full extent of my benefits claims, Im very open about it.

For DLA when you fill in the forms fully and truthfully and have the evidence from your doctors to back up your claim you can get a award in under a week (I have posted about this on another thread, I assisted someone last week with their claim and they posted the application last Thursday and got the correct award yesterday) But when you dont fill in the forms fully, if you tell lies or fill in the form based on your worst day or dont have proof of your disabilities you fail to get an award which is correct or just anyone could decide to cliam DLA to bolster the families finances.

I have helped many people to get DLA over the years, my experiance is that those who deserve it, get it.

People do tell lies on here, Im not one of them. When people get found out lying they dont like it and its understandable that people dont believe a word they say once they know a poster tells lies. Im not even on about "little white lies" but damn lies, such as personel cercumstances that changeing depending on which post you read, things that cant be a typo.

princessdon

If they "don't claim benefts they are entitled to is aimed at me" I'll state my position.

I would rather bizarely be entitled to ESA Support Group - based on their descriptors, however, due to my own illness and the way it affects me it is irrelevant and I am 100% able to work. Therefore I work so don't claim ESA,

Re DLA - I have never attempted to claim and as long as fit and able never would as I don't think I am entitled as although I have needs I self care and am ABLE to self care very easily. Someone with identical needs who could not self care (due to ill health or a disability) and needed to have someone else provide for that care/assistance would be entitled.

I claim CB (due to stop in April) and have never claimed any other form of benefits. Do I need CB? - No - I have always said I claim because I can

techspec

They plan to give the money away in overseas aid.

krisskross

[QUOTE=Dunroamin;56477479

There is a whole world of disabled people who don't claim benefits which is why there is a demand for disability registers which don't rely on receiving any form of benefit. Why should you have to be in receipt of a benefit to get a blue badge or appropriate seating in a theatre or cinema? If these things were readily available for disabled people rather than for benefits claimants we would have far fewer people claiming DLA and a better picture of genuine disability.[/QUOTE]

My husband has only claimed AA comparatively recently.

The main reason I persuaded him to claim was because I was told so many times on MSE that he couldn't possibly be disabled or that I could have any experience of disability as he was not in receipt of any disability based benefit. Apparently the gaining of a disability benefit is the only proof of disability existing according to many posters.

He is in receipt of higher rate AA which I freely admit we use mostly to pay for taxis and this year to pay for a few weeks in a warmer climate in the winter.

He actually was given a BB prior to claiming AA.

I have to agree with sunnyone that some posters lie on these boards. Ask for tips on filling in forms to get an award, ask about medications, symptoms etc. Sometimes MSE is a cheat's bible and an absolute mine of information for those wishing to embellish their form filling. I have seen 'successful' DLA forms scanned into posts for people to plagiarise.

leveller2911

Morlock wrote: »

Yes, you're in it, along with a few others. People who are guaranteed to come in to this forum criticising benefits claimants in threads where people are asking for help. They often spout some exaggerated anecdote about people on benefits living a millionaire's lifestyle at their expense.

Just to clarify for you in the dictionary the meaning of the word "Forum" is "a place of debate" and you may notice the word on the button each day when you log in.

Its true I do post anecdotal evidence but I can assure you it is accurate and genuine.These are people I know very well and not some bloke I read about in the newspapers.

I'm actually a big fan of the welfare state and always have been but as a safety net and not a lifestyle choice which it has been for many.
I was born and bought up on a council estate and see it everyday and it sickens me to see lefty politicians making policy on subjects they have no personal knowledge of.They think they know how the rest of society lives and what its needs are but they don't and the Nanny state has so much to answer for.

With regards to my uncle (mentioned in a previous post) I didn't begrudge him benefits, I begrudge him the amount of benefits that encouraged him to squirell it all away in other peoples bank accounts.He received far more than he needed which could have helped someone else with disabilaties.I would not have wanted to "walk in his shoes" however he had far more money than he needed.

So feel free to explain how I am "anti benefits".