Nice people thread part 7 - a thread in its prime

sss555s

I'd have thought some of your more creative skilled workers could be international, FC

Yes the admin needs to be right but surely that is easier to get.

chewmylegoff

sss555s wrote: »

It's easy when there are a lot of applicants but then the job was already set aside.

The applicants probably know this and applying with other jobs they can become lackadaisical.

Sounds very much public sector.

The applicant still wont pick up the phone in under 10 rings nor bother their !!! because they don't have to.

There is a real job - two in fact - one of which will be filled by the internal promotion. We're not quite as pansy as other public sector places, the job is there because the last guy thought he didn't have to do any work. He got added to the govt statistics rather quickly.

When I was in the civil service someone didn't turn up for a year and still got paid despite being completely AWOL!

If I only had a few applicants and none of them could spell I wouldn't interview the best one, I'd reject them all and readvertise.

sss555s

chewmylegoff wrote: »

There is a real job - two in fact - one of which will be filled by the internal promotion. We're not quite as pansy as other public sector places, the job is there because the last guy thought he didn't have to do any work. He got added to the govt statistics rather quickly.

When I was in the civil service someone didn't turn up for a year and still got paid despite being completely AWOL!

If I only had a few applicants and none of them could spell I wouldn't interview the best one, I'd reject them all and readvertise.

Your obviously experienced in your job. Does that fact that people who qualify to apply (degree) still include people who cannot operate Word?

LydiaJ

YoungBusinessman wrote: »

Hey happy new year all, 3 weeks now been in house, just got internet on. Have a question that will most likely get answered better on this thread than starting a new one elsewhere.

Do you have a tumble dryer? If yes, do you rely on it?

If no, do you struggle getting everything dried over winter time?

Justifying the £350 gf is wanting to spend on a lovely black one that happens to match our new washing machine, fridge freezer and cooker....sigh.

I could manage without one if I was organised, but I'm not. I use it for two purposes:

1) When I suddenly realise the kids and I have nothing clean and dry to wear
2) To take the creases out of stuff before hanging it up to finish drying/airing so that I don't have to iron it. This probably wouldn't be good enough for men's business shirts, but I don't have to wash any of those. It's quite good enough for my cotton jersey tops, which don't crease as badly as woven cotton, and for DS's school shirts because he's only 12 and won't stay creaseless by the time he's walked to school anyway.

chewmylegoff wrote: »

We've got a washer dryer but hardly ever use the dryer bit (cos it's crap). Our thermostat is set at 24C because OH is from sub tropical climes originally, so the washing dries fine on a clothes horse in the spare room.

This works for me when I'm organised. I have a big utility room where I can hang stuff indoors. In the summer, I put it on a clothes horse in the conservatory and it dries super fast. Can't hang stuff outside anymore because the trampoline is covering the hole that the rotary line is supposed to slot into.

I had a washer dryer that washed well and was v slow and fairly useless at drying (although good enough to take creases out of cotton jersey). It eventually died, and now I have space for two appliances I have separate ones. The dryer dries much better than the washer dryer did.

sss555s wrote: »

Yes and yes, seemingly!

I'd recommend you didn't get a condensing tumble dryer unless you really needed it.

OH got one (we already had an outside vent) because it was in fashion I think, but it's a poor substitute to the one that was vented through an external wall.

This may be the reason my separate dryer is better than the washer dryer. The separate one has a vent through the wall, whereas the washer dryer was a condenser.

sss555s wrote: »

Is that important for all your staff?

I send all my things PDF but not every professional does.

How can you expect an employee to do a certain laborious job to be up on office techniques?

I can understand for office staff.

My point is that you can get a great worker who isn't "office savy" and an office savy worker that is a waste of time.

I just don't think it's the best way to judge a person but know it's the corporate way.

But he said it's an admin job, so office skills do matter. I would feel the same about a teaching job. Anyone who can't pay better attention to written material shouldn't be marking kids' work.

PasturesNew

michaels wrote: »

...(it was 17th November so a little hard to remember) ...

MSE history
What did you post that evening about what annoyances you'd encountered that day...?

PasturesNew

Spirit wrote: »

This quiz will identify any narcissictic NP
http://psychcentral.com/quizzes/narcissistic.htm


I scored 10

I got a 0.

Your Total: 0

Between 12 and 15 is average.
Celebrities often score closer to 18.
Narcissists score over 20.

PasturesNew

sss555s wrote: »

...and yes, that does read wrong

Pity i wasn't around of you would have still had a nice time.

That sounded wrong too

PasturesNew

I would like to say that my CV is perfect.... and all the reasons the NPs gave are valid for most people. However, when I recently had to apply for jobs I didn't have Word on my laptop and was relying on "adjusting" an old Word CV using Open Office on a small laptop screen, so pretty much relied on the fact my original CV was perfect. I was battling with:
* The time I had available to apply
* Not really believing that I'd even get an interview
* Small screen
* Open Office doing crazy things with the original Word document
* Trying to still get it to fit onto a reasonable 3-page length CV (and not the 6-8 pages my past/experience etc really need)

It is possible, therefore, that a CV might have slipped through and gone out looking a bit rough based on the fact I'd already spent 3 hours jiggling the CV to fit the job description a bit and reading any information an organisation made available about the person/role.

Application forms are the worst.... 3-4 hours to fill out an application form, only to never hear from them again. Annoying - so after a few you can't be 4rsed really

PasturesNew

Re Rod Hull: Derek Nimmo met with a similar unfortunate domestic-task end.

Re Internet weirdos: LIR was 'banned' from meeting me the first time as FIR thought I might be an Internet nutter

Re tumble driers: Never had one, never used one. I dry stuff on airers. Apart from the cost of buying/owning one, I've rarely lived in a home big enough to accommodate one. Drying on airers can take up to 4 days (depending on the washing machine spin speed and air humidity), which is annoying. Living in a studio I'd always have an airer of stuff drying. Having one airer did mean I had to really think ahead about what I wanted to have clean/wear several days ahead so I knew the right things were being washed in the right order so they'd be available.

I am now lucky that although I have a shower room, it's physically large enough to have the airer up permanently. Also, the current washing machine and the good heating here (including a towel radiator) means that if I wash jeans this morning, they'll be dry within 3-4 hours of being hung over the towel radiator the next time the heating's due to come on.

PasturesNew

Re Chewy/job: most people will DENY that there is any such thing as a public sector job "already spoken for" - and say it'd not be allowed. I don't apply for public sector jobs because:

- I am sure the job's already spoken for
- The forms are huge/long and take too many hours to fill in
- You know that if you've no public sector experience previously then you're unlikely to tick enough of the boxes because a lot of the requirements could only have been gained in that sector
- You need a job NOW and most public sector jobs aren't even interviewing for at least a month, so probably 2-3 months before the job starts.

Overall, if you "need a job NOW", it's quicker/better to apply for private sector jobs because the hoops you have to jump through are less, the person/job criteria won't exclude you so readily, the job will start sooner.