Nice people thread part 7 - a thread in its prime

silvercar

lostinrates wrote: »

No, it's because they have skill, appitude, understanding or training, and or experience that I don't.

But sometimes they have the time and you don't.

Or in this case they are less likely to do themselves an injury.

sss555s

silvercar wrote: »

How do I know if it is configurable?

I expect this will work with pretty much all wireless routers. Maybe a quick google will confirm with your model.

This is the best method (Amazon review) to set up and what I sent lir...

Once set up I'm getting 5 bars signal strength where at best it used to be zero or one. Even extends the signal into the garden which was a bonus.
A bit of a faff to set up, tbh mainly down to my playbook which kept switching between wireless networks whilst I was trying to configure the repeater. Once I reset the device and used a windows laptop it was pretty straightforward.
The main thing to realise is that the device uses 192.168.2.254 as it's default LAN address, so if your existing network is on a different segment (the 3rd number) then you'll have to change it if you are going to manually configure it (my router is BT Homehub v2, which doesn't have a WPS button and I have on segment 1 i.e. 192.168.1.x)
So I had to do the following: -
1. plug in the repeater near the router and wait until the light goes from red to orange
2. on PC connect using wireless to the network that appears as SSID 'REPEATER'
3. Using a web browser go to address http://192.168.2.254 this brings up the Repeater admin page, Settings (login as user 'admin' password 'admin')
4. on the repeater admin page select 'Advanced' and go into 'Settings', then 'LAN' by clicking those items on the left hand menu
5. On LAN host Settings page enter a new IP address using your segment number but keep the default Subnet mask. I chose 192.168.1.222 as I knew it wouldn't conflict with anything else I had and it's easy to remember. Click 'Submit' to save.
6. The repeater can now be connected to your router on it's network segment, on the PC web browser go to the address you have just set for the Repeater i.e. in my case http://192.168.1.222, the page will have a button marked 'Manually Connecting', press this and wait..........
N.B. be patient with this device - the admin functions all take a few minutes to complete
7. Once complete the page will show a list of available networks - highlight the one showing your usual WiFi network (if it's a hidden network you'll have to enter the name manually)
8. On the page, under 'Setting' enter the logon info for your original network - type of security and password.
9. Then click connect and wait. On the repeater the light will flash yellow for a while then turn green if all is well.
10. All you need to do now is to unplug the repeater and move it into a location where it can still pick up the router signal but also transmit it to where you need it. Plug it in and wait for the light to turn green.
11. That's it, worked for me.
If you have a WPS button on your router and it is already using segment 2 then things will be rather less long-winded.
Most of the above is in the manual but some is not in the main section, it also talks about changing your router segment, but it is easier to do this on the repeater as above.

It works great!

sss555s

lostinrates wrote: »

That's great! Thanks, arrived safely in my inbox.

One question, does it have to be on the same circuit as in the same fuse box switchy bit? Or just plugged in in the same house. Does that make sense to any one but me? It's lir does something of which she has no knowledge etc etc .....:rotfl:

No. Just as long as it can get some sort of even weak Wi-Fi signal it will output a strong signal from that point.

lostinrates

silvercar wrote: »

But sometimes they have the time and you don't.

Or in this case they are less likely to do themselves an injury.

Oh sure, time is another one, and physical abilty. But I still would not ask anyone to do something I would refuse to. It's an old fashioned principle probably now. . It's one I was brought up with. Employment is good, exploitation or not being prepared to get your own hands (at least metaphorically) dirty is not.

silvercar

lostinrates wrote: »

Oh sure, time is another one, and physical abilty. But I still would not ask anyone to do something I would refuse to. It's an old fashioned principle probably now. . It's one I was brought up with. Employment is good, exploitation or not being prepared to get your own hands (at least metaphorically) dirty is not.

Now I'm trying to think of examples to test that theory.

I use the London Underground, but I wouldn't be prepared to be a rat catcher in the tunnels.

I watch TV but I wouldn't climb on the roof to fix the aerial.

michaels

silvercar wrote: »

Now I'm trying to think of examples to test that theory.

I use the London Underground, but I wouldn't be prepared to be a rat catcher in the tunnels.

I watch TV but I wouldn't climb on the roof to fix the aerial.

I'm not saying I would be able to but the point is I wouldn't ask someone else to do it just because I didn't fancy it/felt it was beneath me.

Aren't your DKs quite big now SC and able to make their own decisions about who they meet rather than you still having to worry about the example you set?

michaels

silvercar wrote: »

Educate them, trust them and keep the computer in a communal room. Occasionally check their history. The idea of spying on them behind their back doesn't sit right with me.

'The computer' is probably about a dozen web enabled devices of varying portability...

lostinrates

silvercar wrote: »

Now I'm trying to think of examples to test that theory.

I use the London Underground, but I wouldn't be prepared to be a rat catcher in the tunnels.

I watch TV but I wouldn't climb on the roof to fix the aerial.

Grrr...I just lost my post. It was challenging to me to write too.


Rats.....IMO if you won't do it out of squeamishness or moral repugnance then it's a point of 'ettiquette' or ethics of employment we will have to disagree over. However rat catching os not just something you do with no knowledge. You have to annually rotate your poison, and test for resistance and apply t. A reasonable rate according to the area etc etc. You cannot physically do every job in the world, you can be prepared to do it if you have to and need to.

Arial...points of saftey and alternatives are relevant, It would, IMO, be a poor employer to send a jobbing handy man up on a windy day with a creaky ladder. A television engineer or whatever, with the right safety equipment etc....it's a job, I cannot see a potential point of moral repugnance over tv arials for metaphorical clean hands, the only other thing might be a fear of heights. Which is something different again which I am struggling to (tactfully and understandingly ) clarify. I don't think it's safe for terrified people to mount their own rooves.

I think the point is one cannot do everything oneself at all. No way, no how, so we employ peoe who can. The point about hands dirty is really a key one I guess. Metaphorically or otherwise.

Fwiw, two days ago I tried reaching around the loo to see if it were something there, as had dh before me. It's not nice, no one would do it for fun, but ...."had dh been here he would have rodded today. I would have if strong enough. It's very right, ethical, to employ, that's the sensible and ethical thing to do, but not out of believing oneself to be 'above all that' but because someone else might be above you in dealing with it! Or because you cannot do it all all of the time.

lostinrates

michaels wrote: »

I'm not saying I would be able to but the point is I wouldn't ask someone else to do it just because I didn't fancy it/felt it was beneath me.
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See, that's what I shopuld have said too, it's what I mean.

fc123

lostinrates wrote: »

Quite a few of the np have met. It gives me a funny little buzz of happiness when, for example, michaels relays a message from his dd's to Lydia's or arranges to see viva.

It's a sort of success for all of us. Remember when gen's drinks were canceled because of the murder threat and whatever the ndg incident was I cannot remember.

It was lovely and I reckon if we all lived around the corner from each other we would meet up/hang out often...just like in our RL communities. Sadly.w e are all far far away from each other. Humans connect on ,any levels so it's no odd thing that chit chat online forms bonds.
The one thing OH really misses from having shops (incl market stalls it was 24 years) was the network of people we built up and got to now/chatted to. Every one was a Strrranger (at first) who wandered into our public space....and some we got to now really well.

Ah yes Gens drinks...that was me..... the lone traveller. Told OH I
was popping up to Borough to meet some 'fun cool 'people I had met online....and I was the only fun cool person to turn up :cool: . I then got him to log into MSE and he read a PM from Gen which said a nutter called something very nutty had made a threat and it was cancelled. I looked around for nutters and couldn't see any...honest...and came home. Maye they thought I was the nutter

Spirit wrote: »

I have never met a NP and would in RL if I thought I could be of use to a NP in need.

When the internet was relatively new about 12 years ago, my DD was a member of a horsey site and they had a chat room.

From this chat room an online friend directed her to another pony chat room - you can see where this is going - she chatted and 'discovered' that this friend was competing in a neaby horse show she had said she was visiting - what a coincidence!

WE knew none of this. We dropped her and her RL friend at the show and went home. On going to pick her up we learnt that this was an adult male who had appeared. We asked how was he dressed - jeans and a t shirt- not horsey or competitor clothes . Fortunately her more streetwise RL friend had kept them safe and she had not been 'lured away' to see a horse/pony.

We did not report it, she was very shaken. I subsequently learnt that if 'they' make contact 'they' are highly likely to attempt an assault.

I had a dilemma with one of DD's friends ...I was the only parent who was told ...as she used to pop into our shop to chat with me quite often .......we had a chat and she understood that she was really lucky nothing had happened. I decided not to tell the parents in the end as I felt she realised she had a made a bad error of judgement and had learnt from it. Basically she was 15, had pretended to be older and met a guy of 24. He was a shocked as she I think.
Also the parents were not very approachable (and having loads of problems at the time..they went bankrupt and lost their big house and he was gay living with the wife with his new partner...and then she moved in a 22 yr old man.....all very tricky). I feel I did the right thing at the time though.

silvercar wrote: »

Now I'm trying to think of examples to test that theory.

I use the London Underground, but I wouldn't be prepared to be a rat catcher in the tunnels.

I watch TV but I wouldn't climb on the roof to fix the aerial.

Ken Dodd did that and fell of and died.