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iPhone 5 - what are we expecting?

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  • Tony5101
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    Maybe because it's a public forum....?
    If it were an Apple forum and you had people coming on to say how much they dislike the iPhone...then I think you'd have more of an argument.
  • Idiophreak
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    liam8282 wrote: »
    Can't anybody else see the irony in people coming into a thread about the iPhone update, only to tell us all they don't like the iPhone?

    Why be bothered or have any interest about the update in the first place then?

    It's not enough for them not to like the iPhone, they've got to tell everyone that they don't like the iPhone, too...so they can sleep at night, safe in the knowledge they've done all they can...
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    I don't like iPhones

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  • vacheron
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    Idiophreak wrote: »
    It's not enough for them not to like the iPhone, they've got to tell everyone that they don't like the iPhone, too...so they can sleep at night, safe in the knowledge they've done all they can...

    We have a guy in our office who manages to find a way to work in his rant about apple and their products every single day, by his own admission he has never owned an apple product because "they're crap". Meanwhile the apple owners rarely say a thing about their phones, nor have any issue with his phone choice either.

    I've noticed the same with the mac/pc debate. I'm a lifelong PC user and can't/won't comment on macs because I've never owned one. However most mac users are also experienced PC users and whenever they express their preference for the mac from their personal experience they are 're-educated' at length by exclusive PC users, most of whom have never touched a mac in their lives. :)

    I realise there are exceptions to the rule, however I am speaking from my personal experiences over the last 20 years.
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  • liam8282
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    Tony5101 wrote: »
    Maybe because it's a public forum....?
    If it were an Apple forum and you had people coming on to say how much they dislike the iPhone...then I think you'd have more of an argument.

    I am not arguing, just stating what I thought was the obvious.

    Apparently not.
  • Tony5101
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    liam8282 wrote: »
    I am not arguing, just stating what I thought was the obvious.

    Apparently not.

    Maybe I should have said 'discussion point' rather than argument then...
    but..maybe not...
  • Guys_Dad
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    If you want a serious answer to the question of why there is such a division on the Iphone, then it all boils down to thw way it was marketed.

    Firstly, Apple's initial release of the first Iphone which virtually said that this was the first real smartphone.

    Then the way in which they created the hysteria round the product, high-fiving the sheep who waited for outside Apple shops for days to get their hands on one.

    The way they bring out slightly-better handsets every year that cause many young people to get into debt to keep up with the latest micro-improvement.

    The way that they even try to patent the shape of a smartphone.

    The way that they laid claim to the concept of icons when Xerox had them before Apple.

    I actually introduced the Apple II into my company way back at the start of PCs. CP/M, Visicalc and Wordstar revolutionised office work all running on the Apple II, so I recognised their contribution.

    But they almost make a religion out of "the Apple way" and that doesn't sit easily with me. And many of the followers really seem as indoctrinated as the followers of the late Rev Moon, L Ron Hubbard or James Jones.

    So that's my reasons.
  • thegoodman
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    edited 13 September 2012 at 5:25PM
    Guys_Dad wrote: »
    If you want a serious answer to the question of why there is such a division on the Iphone, then it all boils down to thw way it was marketed.

    Firstly, Apple's initial release of the first Iphone which virtually said that this was the first real smartphone.

    Then the way in which they created the hysteria round the product, high-fiving the sheep who waited for outside Apple shops for days to get their hands on one.

    The way they bring out slightly-better handsets every year that cause many young people to get into debt to keep up with the latest micro-improvement.

    The way that they even try to patent the shape of a smartphone.

    The way that they laid claim to the concept of icons when Xerox had them before Apple.

    I actually introduced the Apple II into my company way back at the start of PCs. CP/M, Visicalc and Wordstar revolutionised office work all running on the Apple II, so I recognised their contribution.

    But they almost make a religion out of "the Apple way" and that doesn't sit easily with me. And many of the followers really seem as indoctrinated as the followers of the late Rev Moon, L Ron Hubbard or James Jones.

    So that's my reasons.
    The reason many people buy the iPhone on the first day is unlike others the price is kept the same so no reason to wait.

    Also os updates are available for all current iPhones again unlike android where around 80% cannot be updated to ver 4.0 unless you hack the phone.

    The news such as below also do not help to change users from iPhone to android. Many people are tricked into paying for text messages without any knowledge


    Android mobile device users beware: The volume of malware targeting Android devices, according to a new study, has increased by a factor of 41 from less than a year ago. Alarmingly, new research also finds that more than half of all Android devices sport unpatched vulnerabilities, owing to device manufacturers and carriers failing to issue timely patches for devices that consumers have already purchased.
    http://www.informationweek.com/security/mobile/android-warning-50-of-devices-need-patch/240007264
  • Each to their own but I only desire one phone right now. When I pick up a Note or a oneX I enjoy looking at the screen. I like the features like s-note and fancy camera stuff but when I pick up an iPhone, the compact nature, weight and sheer quality in the build just makes me want one.

    There's plenty of objective criteria that tip the scales in favour of android such as price, innovation and flexibility but....................

    I want an iPhone 5 and plastic phablets aint doing it for me.........
  • NFH
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    Here are some reasons I can think of why people will be buying the iPhone 5:
    • Software – iOS is much more polished and refined than any other mobile operating system. It is extremely intuitive, therefore needing little guidance on how to use it; everything is made easy. With comparable hardware from the various phone manufacturers, it’s worth paying very close attention to the software instead.
    • Updates – Apple provides free updates to iOS for many years after a product’s launch. For example, the iPhone 3GS was launched over 4 years ago, but will still get iOS6 next week. This means that existing iPhone users get all the new functionality of the latest iPhone, except for any functionality that the old hardware can’t physically support. Some people ask why people bother upgrading their iPhones when Apple does this for free – good question!
    • Durability – iPhones are much more durable than other phones, being more resistant to scratches, cracks and discolouring. Coupled with the iOS updates, it means you can keep an iPhone for many years longer than other phones and it will still look like new.
    • Resale value – iPhones have always held their value remarkably well. Resale values are being boosted even more by schoolchildren recently switching from Blackberry to iPhones.
    • Apps – there are more apps for the iPhone than any other mobile operating system. With paid apps, you can buy an app just once and then use it on up to 5 devices for no extra charge, for example within a family.
    • Backups – the iPhone will back itself up to your PC or to iCloud, and you can even restore the backup to your next iPhone when you eventually upgrade. Therefore you keep all of your settings and data, including your text messages, apps configuration, wireless networks and even your Angry Birds progress.
    • Typing – it’s much faster to type on the iPhone than on Android. I know people who’ve owned both and confirmed this.
    • iMessage – text messages are totally free and instant between iPhones and other iOS devices, even internationally and when roaming. Although apps exist that do the same (e.g. Whatsapp), the iPhone does this seamlessly, so when you try to send a potentially chargeable SMS message to someone, the iPhone realises the recipient also has an iPhone and routes it for free via Apple’s servers instead of via your network’s chargeable SMS servers. You even know this before you send because the Send button is a different colour.
    • Grip – the iPhone’s 4” display makes it easier to hold than larger phones’ 5” displays. At http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2202584/iPhone-5-pre-orders-Experts-predict-unprecedented-demand-queues.html they say about the iPhone 5 that “it feels far more comfortable in the hand than any other phone on the market” and “The dual tone back also comes into play, making it ‘grippier’ than previous iPhones, and a handset you’re unlikely to drop”.
    • Free satnav – iOS6 will provide the iPhone 4S and 5 with free satnav supplied by TomTom. Therefore forget ever having to buy satnav or expensive map updates. This is all included.
    • Hardly anyone regrets buying an iPhone but I know people who’ve regretted buying other phones and have switched to the iPhone after being disappointed (myself included). Once you’re part of the iOS ecosystem, you won’t want to leave.
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