Single mum bein hounded

EmmaHerts

dawn_rose wrote: »

hiya just a thought maybe you could consider becoming a childminder esp as you have time in the day when your child is at school and your child will have playmates for the summer holidays. I think its a six week course and a check out and crb to become ofsted registered. i wouldnt have another child and this is certainly an immposible task as your a single mother and therefore without man.

That is brilliant advice for the OP!

paddedjohn

Be careful what you post folks, I made a comment on this very thread which was thanked by at least a dozen of you so must have been correct but the post police have decided in their own wisdom to censor it and removed it because they didn't agree with it. What happened to freedom to express ones opinions?

princessdon

paddedjohn wrote: »

Be careful what you post folks, I made a comment on this very thread which was thanked by at least a dozen of you so must have been correct but the post police have decided in their own wisdom to censor it and removed it because they didn't agree with it. What happened to freedom to express ones opinions?

So the OP who is new managed to work out how to report, says it all really

debrag

clearingout wrote: »

some horrific things happen to children in the hands of oarents, grandparents, siblings, uncles, aunts etc. etc. etc.

at least a childminder or support worker comes with a CRB check, references and Ofstead to check out any complaints.

Like a CRB makes any difference. Do you not watch the news?

Both my parents worked full time and my sister with 5 kids works full time and has always worked.

princessdon

debrag wrote: »

Like a CRB makes any difference. Do you not watch the news?

Both my parents worked full time and my sister with 5 kids works full time and has always worked.

Lets get a sense of perspective here.

Anyone entrusted with children who abuses that trust is in the papers the next day. There are very few stories, very very few.

If Social Services posted data every day on parents/relatives/friends who "harmed" a child, there would be no space for other news.

The data between the two are incomparable as the difference is so vast.

It is a huge insult to teachers, childminders and nurseries to infer that leaving children with them isn't safe.

It's like comparing modes of travel. A plane crashes and makes the news worldwide. When it happens it is devastating and newsworthy. Yet the amount of people killed in air travel V road travel isn't comparable.

enabledebra

flashnazia wrote: »

Sorry if this sounds rude but can I borrow your (rose-tinted) glasses?

I really wish you were right but I beg to differ. I know someone who is a lone-parent adviser and it's amazing how forgetful and fertile some lone-mums get just as they're about to be moved onto JSA...

No, it doesn't sound rude at all. But sometimes it pays to read between the lines and listen for what isn't being said rather than just hearing the words. In this case the words were "I don't want to look for work so I'm thinking of having a another child to avoid that, even though I don't have a father in mind." That's pretty extreme by anyone's yardstick and not something I've ever come across outside of the media so warranted a bit of probing for a reason why they would go to those lengths. The OP seems not to have offered further info to explain so I'd agree with others the OP is a troll.

marybelle01

paddedjohn wrote: »

Be careful what you post folks, I made a comment on this very thread which was thanked by at least a dozen of you so must have been correct but the post police have decided in their own wisdom to censor it and removed it because they didn't agree with it. What happened to freedom to express ones opinions?

I've noticed that seems to happen a lot these days.

marybelle01

princessdon wrote: »

Anyone entrusted with children who abuses that trust is in the papers the next day. There are very few stories, very very few.

If Social Services posted data every day on parents/relatives/friends who "harmed" a child, there would be no space for other news.

The data between the two are incomparable as the difference is so vast.

It is a huge insult to teachers, childminders and nurseries to infer that leaving children with them isn't safe.

It's like comparing modes of travel. A plane crashes and makes the news worldwide. When it happens it is devastating and newsworthy. Yet the amount of people killed in air travel V road travel isn't comparable.

I agree. The fact is that those entrusted with the care of children who are questioned (and I do mean questioned - not convicted - because people tend to get the two confused and assume any allegation must be true) of abuse of any kind end up in the media the next day because somebody tips off the media. Whereupon a trial by public opinion occurs whether or not there is any merit to those allegations. But 99% of the workload in Children's Services in relation to neglect and abuse relates to parents and other relatives - not professional and trained employees entrusted with their care, and not strangers. In fact it is more often than not the professional employees - teachers, childminders, nursery staff and health professionals who bring such cases to the attention of Children's Services.

I would also remind people that even then, the people who come to the attention of Childrens Services are the tip of a very large iceberg. The threshold for intervention is an established matter - there is a spectrum of neglect, and about two thirds of neglected children do not meet that threshold. It is easy to "measure" neglect when it is based on abusive behaviour, children left alone for many hours, or clearly inadequately nourished. It is less easy to "measure" the neglect of children left to fend for themselves while their parents are slumped in front of the TV boozing and smoking, who never have a "family meal", who fix their own meals because no parent will do it for them, who are left to wonder the streets, who parents never spend any time with them or seldom talk to them, never buy them books or paints, or pencils or paper, never ensure that homework is done... etc.,etc. It is a simple fact that most of the schools in our city have now introduced breakfast clubs not for the children of parents who work and need to be in work early (although they obviously benefit them) but because many children are coming to school without having eaten, or eaten adequately, whilst their unemployed parents are still lying in bed.

It isn't by any means the case for the majority of unemployed parents, who struggle with means, but lavish care and and attention on their children. But there are without any doubt a significant minority for whom children are simply a passport to benefits / housing and so on. Enough to be counted in the many thousands, and not in the hundreds.

Katie1980_2

Wish it was a 6 week course and CRB and inspection... To be a childminder
Here it is a whole day pre-reg course college course top up unit if you are not or do not have a level 3 qualification if not then whole college course. then interview medical form and then ofsted inspection/chat and 3-4 weeks later maybe your certificate.. in all about 3-4 months
It is the way I am going as fed up with jumping through hoops for ESA and not getting alot of support from the benefits agency with assistance on wanting to go back to work other than why?

Tankrizzo_2

likelyfran wrote: »

But it's ok for you and others to judge people who choose (because the gov lets them) to stay with their children instead of leaving them to work?
And expect them to justify every move they make or want to make?

Double standards or what! :rotfl:

Personally, I don't understand how any parent can trust 'childcare' in the form of non-family members. Some horrific things happen to children in the hands of 'carers'.

You are utterly deluded (and paranoid, it would seem), as well as hugely insulting towards carers.

Look around you when you're out on your street next. Your working neighbours are the people who are paying for you to sit at home with your children, not some anonymous blob called "The State".

Happily, as the OP is finding out, the days of people "choosing" to stay at home with their offspring, fully funded by the hard work of those around them for years on end, are coming to a close.