delicate subject - abortion

lilibet1

Thanks for replying shovel lad, I had seen that post but I meant the op who was very upset earlier, thanks anyway

*max*

Just FYI, "the OP" is the person who Originally Posted the thread (ie: newcook). It can't refer to anyone else.

Welshwoofs

lilibet1 wrote: »

Thanks for replying shovel lad, I had seen that post but I meant the op who was very upset earlier, thanks anyway

lilibet - as a piece of well meaning advice; no forum operates well with self-appointed standards police. If something offends you personally then you should go ahead and report it, but reporting things because you're worried the content may upset others....especially when you've stated you have absolutely no interest in the topic....is essentially just attempts at censorship because you're got time on your hands and isn't terribly mature IMO.

Fire_Fox

Please don't let Lilibet1 derail the thread, that will get it locked as she wants. Most people on both sides of the discussion are sticking to the topic matter and not throwing personal insults.

coolcait wrote: »

How does an 'enforced' approach to any area of sexual and reproductive health fit into a viewpoint of 'pro-choice'?

Depends what you imagine I mean by identifying with pro-choice. I largely support the legislation as it stands: not abortion on demand but abortion where there is a physical or mental risk. I am also very outspoken on the issue of people taking personal responsibility for their own health and wellbeing by adhering to healthy living guidance.

With that in mind why should anyone under the age of 24 who is not in a stable relationship/ trying for a baby and not celibate not be using contraception? They should be using a barrier method to protect themselves from STDs, that is already part of the sexual health guidelines. The smoking legislation was designed to protect people from having others unhealthy choices inflicted upon them, reduce the burden on the NHS and make smoking less socially acceptable, widespread contraception with an opt out clause could be seen as along the same lines.

Errata

Contraception with an opt out clause is but a very small step away from full blown euginics. Something that's never been too popular in the UK and as a policy was 100% unsuccessful in Germany.

likelyfran

Welshwoofs wrote: »

What on earth is that in relation to???

Obviously she means the people who are deriding the traumatised OP - oops I think she means marywoo, not the OP?

likelyfran

Welshwoofs wrote: »

lilibet - as a piece of well meaning advice; no forum operates well with self-appointed standards police. If something offends you personally then you should go ahead and report it, but reporting things because you're worried the content may upset others....especially when you've stated you have absolutely no interest in the topic....is essentially just attempts at censorship because you're got time on your hands and isn't terribly mature IMO.

Right, so if something offends someone personally it's fine for them to report it, but if they are actually being altruistic/compassionate by sticking up for someone else in reporting something, that's a failing?? Strange logic!! :rotfl::rotfl:

Humphrey10

likelyfran wrote: »

Let's hope you use plenty of contraception then.

I do, but that doesn't prevent me being raped, and I can't exactly say to the rapist "can you just put a condom on please?". There are many many people who have posted on this who would consider me a murderer if I was raped and then had an abortion.

System

You would think if they can send men to the moon they could manufacture a contraceptive that was 100% (that didnt involve abstenence or removing the ovaries/testicles).

Humphrey10

poet123 wrote: »

What century do you think we are living in? Has anyone ever said that to you?

"when are you going to settle down and have children?" "don't you feel your biological clock ticking?" "don't leave it too late" "how many children are you planning to have?" "I bet holding my baby is making you feel broody" etc. Questions such as these are not uncommon, as a childless woman.
The default view of some people is woman = baby machine.