delicate subject - abortion

poet123

lilibet1 wrote: »

Yes I was involved in the other thread but once again it got nasty and vindictive poet, but I don't recall anyone being as upset about it as I know people are about this one. Comments to another poster who obviously is distraught is unfair.

Personally I don't care a jot about abortions one way or another but I do care about people sat at home obviously hurting.

Yes, it did, not least when you posted.

People which people? And how do you know?

I assume you refer to Mary in the main? I agree she is not in a happy frame of mind, but this thread is probably not the place for her under the circumstances.

poet123

Errata wrote: »

Do you think the abortion stats are as alarming as they appear to be on the surface? I'm trying, and failing, to figure out how many episodes of intercourse take place each year and what percentage of those results in the need for an abortion. Once that maths is considered the situation may not be as bad as it seems.

Do we use that approach to any other serious issue? Road safety, drink driving, et al or do we try to reduce the need or incidence by education and information.

Errata

lilibet1 wrote: »

Personally I don't care a jot about abortions one way or another but I do care about people sat at home obviously hurting.

That's fair enough, if you are in possession of the full facts which I suspect you are not.

amus

likelyfran wrote: »

Contraception? The BIG difference is that drug addicts/smokers etc. do NOT have another life inside them. Simples.

So what are your views on better sex education for children because clearly young girls/boys arnt well educated enough about contraception at the moment?

I should imagine all drug addicts/smokers have a POTENTIAL life inside them, if they are female it gets expelled on a monthly basis, if they are male, well, you know the rest.

marywooyeah

heartbreak_star wrote: »

Marywooyeah...if you're still feeling this bad, push for some counselling and therapy from your doctor.

HBS x

I have been referred but was told the wait could be around 12 weeks so can only wait, thankyou x

patwinning wrote: »

Lets just stop and think a minute.
Mary wanted to pray for someone and got absolutely hammered by negative comments because the person is an athiest.
She apologised and said she wouldn't pray if it was going to upset the person which ,imo, was very big of her.
If you dont believe her story you are fully entitled not to.
But please leave the girl alone now, she's gone through enough.
Lets show a little bit of compassion and humanity.

thankyou xx

newcook wrote: »

Hi again all!

First of all, thank you so much to those who have shared your experiences both on the thread and also via PM – believe it or not, it was good to get a non-clinical view so I would know which way to support the young woman.

However, we went to the clinic today for her consultation and it seems she is 7.5 weeks along (so more than she thought) and over the weekend she has done a lot of thinking and after being given all options by the clinic she has decided to keep it!
She is going to tell her dad towards the end of the week after she has had a bit more time to get her head around it all – I have offered to be there when she tells him.

It also looks like we might be bump buddies! me and OH got a positive this morning (I had assumed my period was late due to the stress over the last couple of weeks – we have been ‘not trying, not preventing). I haven’t told her our news yet and wont until she is 100% certain of what she wants to do as I wouldn’t want to influence her decision in any way.

well congratulations to both of you! :T:T:T

lilibet1

There are some real !!!!!es on here at the moment, I can only assume you have nothing better to do. Shame on you. I hope the op is ok

Welshwoofs

poet123 wrote: »

Don't you think though that if enough people are of the view that it was a mere trifle to them, that becomes the/an accepted view? Of course it is not the official line, but often people listen to peers more than professionals.

My guess is that many women don't see it as a show-stopper, but I don't think that 'many' is a majority. I'd summise that the average woman is reflective and even upset at the time, but then moves on and probably has planned children at some point later.

Additionally, I agreed with you that some of the content of the Care Confidential website was unjustifiable but you took issue with parts of it which seemed to me to be expressing reasonable views. Views which many women would agree with.

I agree that having read more of the site, I didn't pick the best examples to highlight but in general I absolutely don't think that they are an impartial and dispassionate counselling service. Also agree that many women do probably agree with those highlights, but also that many do not.

I don't agree with those views at all, but I do think that regardless of what we personally feel about such a situation it is not right to give that opinion in such a way that it trivialises the actual act overall.

That I don't agree with you on - if an individual found it trivial, then I think it's absolutely appropriate for that to be stated, just as I think that it's appropriate for someone on the other end of the scale who was traumatised and possibly psychologically damaged by it to state their feelings that it's the worst thing that's ever happened to them. If you disallow the women who found it trivial to state their feelings on the procedure, then you're left with the women who found it a big deal but got over it and the women who were horribly damaged by it....so the result is a skewed view of abortion as the full spectrum is no longer represented. I can't see any reason to silence one particular spectrum of experience.

Welshwoofs

lilibet1 wrote: »

There are some real !!!!!es on here at the moment, I can only assume you have nothing better to do. Shame on you. I hope the op is ok

What on earth is that in relation to???

Shovel_Lad

lilibet1 wrote: »

There are some real !!!!!es on here at the moment, I can only assume you have nothing better to do. Shame on you. I hope the op is ok

The OP posted this earlier.

newcook wrote: »

Hi again all!

First of all, thank you so much to those who have shared your experiences both on the thread and also via PM – believe it or not, it was good to get a non-clinical view so I would know which way to support the young woman.

However, we went to the clinic today for her consultation and it seems she is 7.5 weeks along (so more than she thought) and over the weekend she has done a lot of thinking and after being given all options by the clinic she has decided to keep it!
She is going to tell her dad towards the end of the week after she has had a bit more time to get her head around it all – I have offered to be there when she tells him.

It also looks like we might be bump buddies! me and OH got a positive this morning (I had assumed my period was late due to the stress over the last couple of weeks – we have been ‘not trying, not preventing). I haven’t told her our news yet and wont until she is 100% certain of what she wants to do as I wouldn’t want to influence her decision in any way.

starrystarry

lilibet1 wrote: »

There are some real !!!!!es on here at the moment, I can only assume you have nothing better to do.

Like you've got nothing better to do than read a thread you're not interested in then try to get it closed down?