A hospital Chief Exec. who believes the disabled a cheats.

taffy056

mikey72 wrote: »

Best swerve I've seen for a while.
And even though I was out, it's so impressive it was worth mentioning
Read post#1, as the thread seems to be about it.



(You had an opinion is post#5, in case you forgot)

Mikey fix it, we were talking about the poster who came onto the thread, so don't try and divert it back, the discussion was about his problems, so come on help there, you seem to have all the answers.

taffy056

As for fixing the problem at that hospital, tell me how does doubling the cost of parking fix it? I don't know that hospital though I was working near there last week as it happens, but I can't see how profiteering will help with parking there, the same amount of people will still need to use the car park, the difference is that they have to pay double the amount to park there. So the hospital will profit by taxing the sick

Myriddin

[FONT=&quot]The essence of the NHS was to provide a comprehensive service funded by taxation, available to all and free at the time of need - this noble principle has been trodden on time and time again.

Perhaps less taxpayers' contributions spent on wars that have precious little to do with us or less money given to countries that have little or no need would help to adequately fund the NHS so that 'car park taxation' would not be needed to prop up inadequate funding.

Aneurin Bevan must be turning in his grave![/FONT]

HO87

Three issues:

1. For a man, presumably, of some intellect the chief executive has made the classic error of assuming that because the person/people he has seen alighting from cars displaying BB's were able to "walk across the car park faster than I can" that they were the BB holder and, if they were, the fact that they can walk over a short distance implies that they were not disabled within the terms of the Equality Act. If the quote is accurate he needs to educate himself.

2. Not all hospitals are alike and many suffer because they occupy sites that simply preclude them from offering any parking. That said, others - inevitably the newer builds - have acres of space and have aesthetically pleasing, sweeping driveways and car parks interspersed with beds of shrubs and trees. The two cannot be compared fairly.

3. The subject which is, again, at the heart of the issue over access to hospitals is government transport policy which is anti-car and is predicated on encouraging the use of public transport. In short, the policy directs that parking spaces are to be restricted to less than those that normal footfall or occupation require which inevitably means, even in those modern hospitals with larger grounds, that people have to queue three-deep to get into a space.

Nor should we forget that PPC's are viewed by government (courtesy of dogged lobbying by the BPA over many years) as part of the transport policy matrix specifically adding to the levels of deterrence to car use. The charging rates in the car parks are viewed as part of that same matrix the intention being that the average charge exceeds the average public transport journey to the hospital.

The fact that public transport is either straightforwardly inaccessible to a large number of people; is impractical because of poor routing, time constraints or physical impairment and may well be thoroughly undesirable does not form part of the calculation, it seems.

In terms of potential solutions there are several:
a. Spread hospital clinics across a wider time-frame. This was suggested a few years ago I seem to recall but I think 'specialists" did for the idea. Presumably because, the cynic in me says, they value being on the 1st tee in time to get a round in before dark; their private (and more lucrative) clinics are run between 4 and 7pm or they feel they are more entitled to sit down for the evening than anyone else.
b. Invest in real public transport not simply subsidise private companies to operate over ill-considered, out-of-date routes that no longer serve the public.
c. Stop being so bl**ding London-centric. The vast majority of the British public do not have access to the Underground, 24-hour buses and nor do they have cycle lanes. My nearest bus stop is a very brisk 20-minute walk away (and is impractical for anyone vaguely infirm), there are no cycle lanes locally and my nearest train station is a 20-minute walk followed by two bus journeys away and - other than at long distance - takes me nowhere I need to go and certainly nowhere near my nearest hospital.

devonlad

taffy056 wrote: »

I am sick and tired of NHS trusts that are funded by us, using an excuse of cutting funding elsewhere and using scaremongering tactics to pass through things like this.

I am one of the sad NHS workers that is facing a pay cut of 15 percent from the south west pay consortium :mad: that equates to about 4 to 5 k a year for me. we are facing losing other monies like enhancments for nights, increasing our hours with paying them, less holiday etc etc. i pay 120 a year for a residents permit and still get pcn (thx cp plus). no pay rise for three years now.
i recomend that anyone thinking of doing nursing should have a rethink as we are easy targets we just strike cos of duty to care but my mate who is a teacher said any thing like that and school wouldnt be starting this term.
Each of the twenty trusts that have entered this pay cartel has paid 10000 to join it, total 200000 of your tax payers money.

how would you like to be told if you dont like the proposals you will be sacked and reemployed on new terms????

http://www.rcn.org.uk/aboutus/england/southwest/south_west_pay_cartel

http://www.unisonsouthwest.org.uk/campaigns/swnhspaycartel.ashx

devonlad

must admit though i do find it anoying when a fit person uses there relatives or partners blue badge when the owner of the badge isnt using the car

devonlad

SodG24 wrote: »

From the £13b+ we pay to belong to the EU would be a very good starting point.

and the rest we fund to the indian navy which they arent fussed about:mad:

devonlad

Trebor16 wrote: »

If you were a NHS finance manager I wonder what you did to curb the waste within the NHS. Start with the fees paid to contractors on a daily basis, money spent on jollies to conferences, poor procurement of equipment and services at costs which are poor value for the NHS.

well said, couple years ago are senior nurses went to a posh hotel for the day for a team building exercise!!!! they made xmas cards for us that looked like they had been made by my 4 year old kid!!!!!! i asked why they couldnt of used the classrooms that we have here which would of been more than adequate. perhaps they were so poor they couldnt afford thier lunch


The NHS could easily afford to do away with car parking charges and savings can be made elsewhere without affecting frontline services.

and again i asked our carparking folks how can they justify £8 a day parking fees. people dont park here to go into town, its just another milk cow

devonlad

taffy056 wrote: »

The point is, that public transport is not practical for a lot people, you appear to think that by offering free parking it will encourage more people to use the car, I happen to disagree with you.

its difficult to use public transport here as the last bus to my home is at 2030 shift finishes at 2100 and on call after that so cant catch bus home, cant catch bus back if called in

Hasbeen

devonlad wrote: »

must admit though i do find it anoying when a fit person uses there relatives or partners blue badge when the owner of the badge isnt using the car

Agree, it does not help disabled people with the general public opinions.:(

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