Parking Eye scum!

bazster

tonytone123 wrote: »

Im leaving this hell hole very shortly, thus it is possible for me to avoid income tax .... and council tax!

If i buy British made clothing in Asia it'll have Asian tax on not British.

I sympathise but every time I think of quitting this country of spivs and scammers I run into the pubs and beer problem. As in, nowhere else has any to speak of.

bazster

tonytone123 wrote: »

After reading this article will this give me a leg to stand on in court.

Its also only 10 pounds to park for the evening yet theyve charged 6 times that ... for if anyone has time to read it.

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Yes. They have charged a penalty for breach of contract, which is unlawful. They may only claim their losses i.e. £10.

Your mother/father's first line of defence is that they weren't driving, so they can't be liable, and they have you as proof.

Your second line of defence is that only the landowner can enter onto a contract to park on their land, some jumped up scumbag parking company cannot do so.

Your third line of defence might be, as above, an unfair contract penalty.

Somewhere in there you might also get inadequate signage (you didn't see it) allied to unfair contract terms.

Good luck, I think you'll need it, but I admire your enthusiasm for the battle.

Stephen_Leak

It's an inappropriate but accurate analogy, but using the HMC&TS' Money Claim Online service is criminally easy.

I've used it twice, against MINT, the old credit card company, and TalkTalk. Both coughed up at the eleventh hour.

I'm confident that PE will do the same. After their last court appearance, they won't want their dubious business practices subjected to legal scrutiny again.

For the record ...

Parking Eye vs. Smith, Manchester, 2011, 1XJ81016. The judge ruled that the PPC’s demands were unreasonable, were therefore an unlawful contractual penalty and found in favour of the driver. However, as they were unpaid, she awarded the PPC the parking charges of £15.00, not the £260.00 penalty. She also awarded costs of just £95.00, not their claimed £4,457.20.

tonytone123

bazster wrote: »

I sympathise but every time I think of quitting this country of spivs and scammers I run into the pubs and beer problem. As in, nowhere else has any to speak of.

I work offshore in some really awful corrupt places but they havent become police states overnight and a speed camera or vehicle registration recognition plate is an alien concept.

But they've great pubs in Bangkok, KL etc.... and they bring the beer to you served by a dolly bird in a Tiger Beer tight fitting outfit.

tonytone123

bazster wrote: »

Yes. They have charged a penalty for breach of contract, which is unlawful. They may only claim their losses i.e. £10.

Your mother/father's first line of defence is that they weren't driving, so they can't be liable, and they have you as proof.

Your second line of defence is that only the landowner can enter onto a contract to park on their land, some jumped up scumbag parking company cannot do so.

Your third line of defence might be, as above, an unfair contract penalty.

Somewhere in there you might also get inadequate signage (you didn't see it) allied to unfair contract terms.

Good luck, I think you'll need it, but I admire your enthusiasm for the battle.

Thanks Baxter i will use this info youve given me, if i get it back i'll give it to a Hospice.

tonytone123

bazster wrote: »

Somewhere in there you might also get inadequate signage (you didn't see it) allied to unfair contract terms.

Good luck, I think you'll need it, but I admire your enthusiasm for the battle.

There is plenty of signs but at 2-3am they arent lit and you cant see them, besides im meant to be looking at the road not signs.

mikey72

tonytone123 wrote: »

I work offshore in some really awful corrupt places but they havent become police states overnight and a speed camera or vehicle registration recognition plate is an alien concept.

But they've great pubs in Bangkok, KL etc.... and they bring the beer to you served by a dolly bird in a Tiger Beer tight fitting outfit.

I've been there as well. For a couple of quid to the local police, if your watch goes missing the day before you're due to go home, you don't get it back, but the cabin boy doesn't have a good week.

But you can speed and park anywhere. (sometimes it costs a few quid later though)

bazster

tonytone123 wrote: »

I work offshore in some really awful corrupt places but they havent become police states overnight and a speed camera or vehicle registration recognition plate is an alien concept.

But they've great pubs in Bangkok, KL etc.... and they bring the beer to you served by a dolly bird in a Tiger Beer tight fitting outfit.

We're going a bit OT here Tony, but I'm afraid I'm one of those beardy hobbit types who believes that yellow fizzy stuff is not beer!

londonTiger

you have perserverence, i wouldnt have the energy to do this.

in an industry where staff are controlled by slave drivers to get every penny possible for alleged parking offences, where they have performance quota to meet or get fired.

The last thing that will happen is for someone to issue a refund for a paid fine.

you will have to go though the small claims court and have a water tight case as well.

but sounds to me like you dont really have a case mate. I've been fined once for parking in the wrong spot. there were two bays one was free to park for resident, and the bay just next to it was pay to park. I missed my spot and parked in the wrongbay and got a 40 quid fine.

just to give you an idea 90% of excuses go along the lines of "i didn't know" or "i didn't see". the law doesn't require parking signs to be displayed in large neon signs that can been seen from the moon. It's the responsibility of the driver to get out and read the small parking notices on lamp posts, and also to check the road markings. It's unlikely you'll win the appeal. Talking of which appeal process is probably closed to you because you accepted their judgement by paying the fine

trisontana

It wasn't a FINE or an "offence".