Due a police visit - help

Jamie_Carter

missprice wrote: »

If I was mugged these days I would call my partner to come and get me as what exactly can or will the police do? they usually say there is nothing they can do and it probably wont happen again (this being what they said when my daughter was mugged)
Car these days you just call them and get a crime number for insurance purposes
same for burgled, crime number for insurance.
well tbh a crime number generator does not need a police force.
so why not have a smaller cheaper to run department for generating crime numbers?

So because you take that attitude, that means you are part of the problem. If you don't report a crime, then how do you expect the muggers to be caught. If that same mugger ends up killing someone, then I hope you will feel guilty that you didn't even report them the first time.

NewKittenHelp

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

So they were investigating an alleged crime. And you decided to interfere. Well what if that person had commisted a serious crime, and you had prevented them from investigating it?

I wasn't preventing them from investigating it, I was preventing them from breaking the law. The police do not have a right to break the law, no matter what you may think.

nimbo

missprice wrote: »

Car these days you just call them and get a crime number for insurance purposes
same for burgled, crime number for insurance.
well tbh a crime number generator does not need a police force.
so why not have a smaller cheaper to run department for generating crime numbers?

when my BIL was burgled at the house he is doing up the police arrived within 30 minutes. He had CSI peeps all over, who found a thumb print, and caught the guy.

in court he was fined about £150 damages etc to pay BIL back, and he even received a cheque for £20 the other day...
(not sure if they've kept coming but better than a poke in the eye)...

the police do a wonderful job (usually) in a terrible climate, with massive budget cuts going on all around them.

NewKittenHelp

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

So because you take that attitude, that means you are part of the problem. If you don't report a crime, then how do you expect the muggers to be caught. If that same mugger ends up killing someone, then I hope you will feel guilty that you didn't even report them the first time.

This is an interesting answer because you think I should have just sat back and allowed the police to break the law. So in your world it's fine for the police to break the law, but not fine for a victim of a crime to not report a crime due to previous bad experiences with the police.

You have a worrying moral compass.

nimbo

OP, I hope all went well.

It's always stressful to deal with the police, the uniform has the knack of making you feel guilt when you have done nothing wrong.

xxxxx

lostinrates

:rotfl:

nimbo wrote: »

when my BIL was burgled at the house he is doing up the police arrived within 30 minutes. He had CSI peeps all over, who found a thumb print, and caught the guy.

in court he was fined about £150 damages etc to pay BIL back, and he even received a cheque for £20 the other day...
(not sure if they've kept coming but better than a poke in the eye)...

the police do a wonderful job (usually) in a terrible climate, with massive budget cuts going on all around them.

We live near a town, but rurally, just the right distance for kids on mopeds on in cars they have spend money on making look and sound ridiculous to come in a loop, and on a quiet road great for pulling up on to drink and take drugs, as wellof course as just have a quiet catch up with mates. Sadly a lot of them also drive after drinking and also come on to our property. Also a significant number of rare breed and non rare breed livestock have been stolen.

There is Very little the police can do to prevent this, but they have been absolutely great in reassuring us in howfar we can go to prevent it (and the methods have been in the main very effective). I also warned them one of my concerns was that one of my dogs does bite, i know she does and take precautions but i will not leave her with a muzzle and collar on over night when i know her perimetre is secure. The police made a note to watch out for her should they attend, and said they were perfectly content that i had made this very clear in signage and that I would not be at risk were she to nip an intruder in this sort of scenario (as opposed to almost every other situation.

We runa business from our home which often means people are here at antisocial times of day, the police came one morning met them, and adviced apus as to other business security measures, liased with our security provider and now in clude our road (previously not part of any round) on the driven round at irregular times. I have been overwhelmed at the old fashioned style of co munity policing provided by these police and police support officers, its good to be on a first name terms.

Is it a perfect service or a perfect crime preventative, no, of course not, but i am very impressed at the efforts made to eliminate minor crime bothering someone.

meg72

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

As for nearly knocking the door down. Well some police officers only know how to knock loudly. It's as if they think that you are more likely to answer the door that way. But 'nearly knocking the door down' was most likely an exaggeration buy the neighbour.

I dont think so, I think the Police are trained to knock loudly, I have only the one experience and already knew , via neighbour and friend that they were coming to tell me of my Son`s suicide, they were lovely but I did jump out of my skin when they knocked.

Fire_Fox

missprice wrote: »

If I was mugged these days I would call my partner to come and get me as what exactly can or will the police do? they usually say there is nothing they can do and it probably wont happen again (this being what they said when my daughter was mugged)
Car these days you just call them and get a crime number for insurance purposes
same for burgled, crime number for insurance.
well tbh a crime number generator does not need a police force.
so why not have a smaller cheaper to run department for generating crime numbers?

One case does not equal usually: when my aunt had her purse stolen they certainly didn't behave that way, they actually found her purse. If you are in an area with CCTV and contact the police quickly they can check that to see where the thief went or if they can be recognised, in my city the police have an excellent relationship with the CCTV operatives and with security in the local shops.

Initially you get a crime reference number - most people want that quickly for insurance purposes and that is all they ask for. For a crime reference number you also give details of the items that were taken, if the police later match you up with items recovered they can contact you. You can give a statement and ask them to investigate if you wish, all you have to do is communicate with the police instead of whinging. Often there is no evidence so it would be a complete waste of time, paper and money to chase around after reluctant citizens for statements.

DVardysShadow

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

To get on the wrong side of the police you would have had to do one of the following:

• Break the law
• Be accused of breaking the law by someone else, but actually be innocent.
• Look like someone who has broken the law.
• Done something that could lead the police to thinking that you have broken the law.
• Behaved agressively towards the police.

That list is only exhaustive if the police are decent upstanding honest diligent and hardworking. Too many of them are lazy, vindictive malicious and mendacious.

DVardysShadow

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

I think you have just summed up your own ignorance.

To start with, I'm no police lover. I'm a realist who looks at things from a balanced point of view. Rather than just a one sided one.

I'm not going into individual cases. But there are 12 member of the jury to give a balanced view. To find someone guilty, it has to be beyond rewasonable doubt. If there is any doubt, then that person can't be found guilty.

Your own ignorance is hidden to you because it extends to about the 5th dimension. You are a fine one to talk about others being one sided.