Due a police visit - help

cheepskate_2

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

No I'm not a cop. But I know a few, and you would stuggle to find people more honest.

Old school coppers simply can't exist for long in the job any more, because the whole service is under constant scrutiny.

Really........................

http://www8.open.ac.uk/platform/blogs/society-matters/deaths-in-police-custody

adouglasmhor

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

There is probably no reason at all to get legal advice at this stage.

If you are being interviewed in relation to a crime against a child, you would be an utter fool not to seek legal advice, or to advise against it.

missprice

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

No I'm not a cop. But I know a few, and you would stuggle to find people more honest.

If I seem venomous, it's because most police haters do so because the police try and stop them from doing what they want to do, which is illegal. It's like people who get stopped for speeding, and come out with the line "shouldn't you be catching proper criminals". Well if that person had killed a child when they were speeding, then they would be a criminal. So by stopping them from speeding, they could be saving a childs life.

well thats a nice, well balanced view of people who don't immediately trust Police officers.

maybe they are all saints apart from the few I have come across (excepting the good ones) but I can tell you enough of them are insolent/lazy/stupid and downright vile and incompetent for me to take what any one of them may say without a giant pinch of salt.

and I have never been stopped for speeding or in fact done anything illegal (except stealing chocolate as an 11 year old) to bring me to the notice of the Police force.
I actually had to spend time in a police station when a mate was arrested and I heard a police woman saying she was hiding out of the way so she did not have to do any work that day.
When my elderly neighbour knocked part of my garden wall down in his car the police came and looked and saw the damage to wall/car and said we cant do anything about it.
!!!!!! the wall had come down in one large piece and you could see the bumper mark the car had made on the wall. and the damage to the corresponding bit of the car.
They come round for bonfires that I don't have and keep asking me to put them out. but I say see the fence love? its on the other side and not in my garden, would you like me to clamber over maybe and spit on the fire? they are determined despite the evidence of their own damn eyes that its me with a bonfire because 'someone called them and told them its this address.
I could actually go on I have at least another 4 or 5 stupid Police encounters I have had in the last 15 years.
but yes us police dislikers are of course all criminals:)

Jamie_Carter

adouglasmhor wrote: »

That's not very helpful to this thread, nor is the rest of your "advice" to be honest.

The post was in response to another post.

The trouble with threads like this is that all the police haters come out of the woodwork, and claim all sorts of conspiacies. And quite frankly, all they will do is terrify the OP....which isn't very helpful!!.

All the police are doing is carrying out preliminary investigations into an allegation, which they are obliged to do. And as long as the OP is honest and polite, there should be no reason to worry.

The police aren't the enemy, unles you have committed a crime.

Jamie_Carter

missprice wrote: »

well thats a nice, well balanced view of people who don't immediately trust Police officers.

maybe they are all saints apart from the few I have come across (excepting the good ones) but I can tell you enough of them are insolent/lazy/stupid and downright vile and incompetent for me to take what any one of them may say without a giant pinch of salt.

and I have never been stopped for speeding or in fact done anything illegal (except stealing chocolate as an 11 year old) to bring me to the notice of the Police force.
I actually had to spend time in a police station when a mate was arrested and I heard a police woman saying she was hiding out of the way so she did not have to do any work that day.
When my elderly neighbour knocked part of my garden wall down in his car the police came and looked and saw the damage to wall/car and said we cant do anything about it.
!!!!!! the wall had come down in one large piece and you could see the bumper mark the car had made on the wall. and the damage to the corresponding bit of the car.
They come round for bonfires that I don't have and keep asking me to put them out. but I say see the fence love? its on the other side and not in my garden, would you like me to clamber over maybe and spit on the fire? they are determined despite the evidence of their own damn eyes that its me with a bonfire because 'someone called them and told them its this address.
I could actually go on I have at least another 4 or 5 stupid Police encounters I have had in the last 15 years.
but yes us police dislikers are of course all criminals:)

I think your problem is caused by your attitude towards them. I'm not saying that none of them are insolent or lazy, or possibly even stupid (although they shouldn't get through training if they are). But that's the same in any walk of life, and is no reason to tarr them all with the same brush. As I said earlier, that is the sort of attitude that breads racism, and other discrimination.

When your neighbour knocked down your wall, they were correct, as it was a civil matter, that you need to resolve between you and your neighbour (through the civil courts if required). So what did the police do wrong by telling you that?

If it is reported to them that you have a bonfire in your garden, then it is only natural for them to assume that you have. Maybe just a polite response, saying that it is actually in your next door neighbour's garden, would have been all it would take to send them next door.

I really don't envy the police when they have to deal with people with your attitude.

Jamie_Carter

adouglasmhor wrote: »

If you are being interviewed in relation to a crime against a child, you would be an utter fool not to seek legal advice, or to advise against it.

It wasn't a crime. It was a probably unfounded allegation of a threat.

Cat501

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

The police aren't the enemy, unles you have committed a crime.

I could spend all day refuting that statement with documented examples,but a quick google of "Alleged cases of police brutality in the UK" and "Deaths in police custody in the UK" should suffice for anyone who believes your assertion. Oh, and this.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/jan/14/stop-search-racial-profiling-police

All that before we even get into miscarriages of justice.

OP, I have nothing to add which hasn't already been suggested, but I admire your restraint when faced with the racist little *******.

Jamie_Carter

Cat501 wrote: »

I could spend all day refuting that statement with documented examples,but a quick google of "Alleged cases of police brutality in the UK" and "Deaths in police custody in the UK" should suffice for anyone who believes your assertion. Oh, and this.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/jan/14/stop-search-racial-profiling-police

OP, I have nothing to add which hasn't already been suggested, but I admire your restraint when faced with the racist little *******.

Do you know how many police officers there are in the UK? And do you know how many have been involved in such incidents?

marisco_2

britishboy wrote: »

I've since found out through a friend at the school an allegation of me either threatening or 'roughing up' the racist bully (who's only 15) has been made

I hope the meeting with the police went well this afternoon and that you felt you got your side of events across and were listened to.

Where is it being alleged this 'roughing up' took place? The only area where you seem to have been anywhere near this 15 year old is by the school. In which case CCTV would most likely prove nothing happened. Also at any school if such an incident were to take place it would be noticed very fast. No doubt a parent would have immediately have reported it to the Head teacher who would be duty bound to call in the police. So why the delay in them wanting to see you, seeing as we are now 4 weeks into the summer holidays?

Cat501

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Do you know how many police officers there are in the UK? And do you know how many have been involved in such incidents?

1. Yes, roughly.

2. No, do you? Given that the cases mentioned are the ones we have actually heard about. Although it seems logical to surmise that rather a lot are involved in the "stop and search" statistics. Regardless, even if it IS a tiny minority, that doesn't make it in any way trivial.

I could give you a recent example of police bullying and unwarranted use of force which you will never read about in the newspapers or online but there seems little point.