Flying solo

Sun_Addict

Sorry to hear about DS2 Robin, hope he gets sorted very soon. But very pleased to hear of CD's progress. Talk about swings and roundabouts!

*Robin*

Hello Diary and MSE Friends, :hello:

Thanks for popping in, Lubava and Sun.A. Wish I could offer cake, but alas haven't had time to make one.

Sun_Addict wrote: »

Sorry to hear about DS2 Robin, hope he gets sorted very soon. But very pleased to hear of CD's progress. Talk about swings and roundabouts!

Sometimes it feels as if m' life lurches from one crisis to the next, through waist-deep mud. Surely am old enough to cope better - after all, my travails are minor compared to those many other folk labour beneath?
Not enough meditation.

DS2 slept for a solid eighteen hours, then woke up much more centred. It hasn't lasted; thoughts all over the place, as is he - walks down to visit Ex and his cats** at least twice a day, has a bed in both houses, tends to get up in the middle of the night and walk to the other one.
**DS2 & GF's cats - Ex 'adopted' them because Central Madrid isn't a good location for cats.

Unfortunately DS2 is resisting getting a second opinion. Reading between the lines; if I'm prepared to spend money on another doctor, Two would rather I just gave him the cash.
Not happening. :cool:

Am now beginning to wonder whether the last lot of doctors who treated DS had access to his history? Their choice of meds makes a teeny bit more sense if they have gone back to the first diagnosis Two was given. Trouble is, the first diagnosis definitely wasn't right.
<sigh>

Meanwhile am surrounded by more technology than I can cope with. Two doesn't understand m' brain can't immediately grasp all the 'new' things he wants me to use. Whatever he's done, I can't even shut off the internet connection any more, and as for which 'phone to use - no idea which chip is in each; risking horrendous charges if I use the wrong one!
Ended up in tears this morning when DS insisted on unplugging the only bit of kit am confident using (getting over-tired ).

Looking forward to Divo One's return - Two listens to him! Four is also lending support to the idea of Divo Two going to see the doctor we trust. Without his agreement, it's a waiting game.

Meanwhile Plumber to the Rescue: He's taken DS to do the paperwork required for scrapping his old car.
Will be a relief once that's gone - Divo Two keeps wanting to fix it up despite the ridiculous cost.. Not a good idea at all; Groundhog day and exhausting having to dissuade him from such a course over and again - like dealing with an Alzheimer's sufferer.

Whatever is in those pills DS has been given, they are doing something really weird to his brain. In other areas he's obviously functioning very well - spent much of yesterday on the 'phone sorting out a colleague's programming problem. DS is also being really helpful to Ex - collecting shopping for him etc.

Flummoxed. Off to the shady side of the garden; use the rest of this break to try and still that worried little voice in m' head..

Fudgefund

Hi Robin, caught up with your last four months today and I was having a good shriek/chuckle at Mr Toad today at work. I think if that had happened to me I would have been cowering in the house for days trying to come up with the courage to flip him into the ice cream container.

I'm glad CD is still going strong, I did fear for him a bit at one point when he stopped eating, but it sounds like the Vet's mix is amazing. I don't have much wisdom to offer about the medical issues your family have at the moment, but I hope things improve soon.

Also - belated Happy Birthday to you. _party_

grannyx2

My dearest Robin, just popping by to drop off these as you sound so frazzled ATM


((((Robin))))

And tummy tickles for CD too

Hope el Divos manage to show up soon to help you with Divo 2

Granny x

missrlr

Hello dear *Robin*

So sorry to read of your trials and tribulations. Is there any form of words you can use to get Divo2 to listen, even a strong one like "stop bullying me with this new technology". If you wrote him a list of problems like which phone has which number in it to call UK please label would he resolve these when in a "doing" mode?

It's a shame you cannot get Divo1 to talk to him if he cannot come back for a face to face soon. Is there a pattern to the timing of pills/ eating / not eating that could help minimise the effects?

Other than hugs and positive thoughts I can only reiterate I think the second opinion is good, and do please get as much back up with the deterrent for daft behaviours as is possible. Hope the car vanishes soon!

Glad CD is still doing well. We are playing the waiting game here. Have a few more consultant appointments lined up which may or may not resolve anything. My ankle is not healing well, this is one appointment. Surgery is being spoken of which in itself is of course a solution but the attendant problems out operatively then become manifold. Where there is a will there is a way. As you said others struggle on under enormous loads so am just concentrating in having one foot placed in front of the other (limping).

Hugs, quiet meditation time, ear tickles and belly rubs as appropriate xxx

debtfreewannabe321

Sorry i've been absent just had a catch up and firstly I'm super impressed with the toad catching story :eek: You are a braver woman than me that's for sure! I hope no more find their way to your nest now, but I guess if they do you know what to do now (now have visions of your fridge being filled with comatosed toads in tupperware :rotfl:). Happy belated birthday :bdaycake:!!! I'm so pleased to hear CD is going from strength to strength :T:T. DS2...I don't know what drug you are talking about but it sounds extreme :eek: I hope you find a solution soon, I would be looking for a second opinion, I hope when he is well he appreciates what a great mum he has in going out of her way to help him. I wish I had had the same when I had depression, instead I was on my own with an absent husband and a Dr who as soon as she heard I was a forces wife and my hubby was on tour asked if i'd like some prozac :eek: shocking really! I have to say it was alternative therapies that helped me in the end but it's not for everyone. I really hope he's more like his normal self very soon!
xx

*Robin*

G'day, dear Friends, :hello:

Thanks for dropping in, Granny and Fudgie - what good mates you are, bestowing hugs and a chuckle just when needed! :T

Fudgefund wrote: »

I was having a good shriek/chuckle at Mr Toad today at work. I think if that had happened to me I would have been cowering in the house for days trying to come up with the courage to flip him into the ice cream container.

Oh no, believe me, if your dearest constant companion was in mortal danger Fudgie, you would have found a solution - probably much faster and with less faffing about than I did!

Fudgefund wrote: »

I don't have much wisdom to offer about the medical issues your family have at the moment, but I hope things improve soon.

Thanks. So do I. Everything is moving too fast for m' addled brain though..

Last night I wrote a long post about 'developments' here over the last two days. It read just like a plot for next Xmas' TV blockbuster - now left wondering whether what appears to be happening is believable, or am I descending into dementia and paranoia? Really.

One thing is certain: Am woefully lacking in understanding of MH personality disorders - just don't know GF well enough..
Either co-incidences are racking up at an unlikely rate, or DS' underlying problem is a helluva lot more sinister and complicated - and in a completely different direction.

The action has shifted several hundred miles at GF's urgent behest, leaving me helpless on the end of the 'phone; waiting for the next update.. :cool:

Meanwhile - feel free to fall about laughing, all you seasoned owners of iphones or equivalent - yours truly has worked out that the Spanish mobile chip which has credit on, is inside Divo Two's latest gift. It is second hand, with a few problems - DS said something about using the volume control to turn it on because the proper switch doesn't work? So not worth any kind reader trying to give me a tutorial because this particular whatever-it's-called, has been doctored by my dear clever son..
No idea how to either make or answer a call. Spanish predictive text produces gobbledegook. Can't get rid of that, let alone switch off the 'phone to try and get inside it, in order to move the chip into a mobile I can actually use!
<sigh>

This is a pain in the arris because CD's blood-results will be back; want to call Dear Vet and find out whether we need more or different meds for CD?

Two and I have already discussed mobiles; we were going into town together so he can help choose a new** one that I'll be able to cope with, and then pass this one on to someone less technically challenged than Robin - but that was before GF summoned him to her family's holiday home without prior notice.
** Which comes with a guarantee, an instruction book and most importantly; without somebody else's contact numbers pre-installed!

It's times like this I really miss DH's clear-headed logic, not to mention his comforting embrace.. :A

Ironically, the only handy RL person I can discuss it with is Ex - off to do that now, hope he can help decide whether to just wait, hot-foot-it down the costa and try to retrieve Divo Two, or inform the authorities (which may initiate a frying pan into fire scenario).
Worryingly, no-one from GF's family has been in touch this morning...
Oh yeah, and there's a huge conflagration blocking the motorway between the Nest and GF's Mum's house - the normal three hours' journey will probably be double that via mountain-track diversions!

Missrlr and DFw, you've both posted since I drafted this - will be back to update and respond later, because Ex felt my need to talk and 'phoned a few minutes ago (yay for pre-mobile-days intuition - still works! ).

All I wanted was a quiet life.. :rotfl:

*Robin*

..Just heard from Divo Two; he's escaped, on the way back via the mountain diversion in a bus (train line is closed too).

Thank God!!!

alioops78

G'Day right back at ya Robin (it did give me a jolt when I read your greeting, it's amazing what can trigger a homesickness pang lol)

So sorry about everything at the moment, I do feel that as soon as something seems to go right for you (CD getting better) something else comes along to test you and it's just not fair for you.

I suffer from a rare condition so know how hard it is to find medico's that actually know about it and understand how to treat it, generally they can treat the symptoms not the whole condition or really on me telling them what the condition is.

I really hope that your other Divos can talk sense into Divo2 as obviously the medication is not right for him and a second opinion is worthwhile or hopefully he'll come to the conclusion on his own.

As for the mobile phone, you don't have to turn it off to be able to open it up. Just take off the back and pull the battery and sim card out, this will turn the phone off anyway.

Massive hugs and fingers crossed that things start to go a bit more smoothly for you.

xx

*Robin*

Hello Diary, Dear Friends-in-the-Box, :hello:

missrlr wrote: »

So sorry to read of your trials and tribulations. Is there any form of words you can use to get Divo2 to listen, even a strong one like "stop bullying me with this new technology". If you wrote him a list of problems like which phone has which number in it to call UK please label would he resolve these when in a "doing" mode?

Hi Missrlr, thanks for sharing your thoughts even though you've got so much going on in your own life atm. Much appreciated; really does help when trying to order mine.
Eventually Divo Two understood that I need to learn in small chunks; lesson one was how to find and use the 'dialling' screen (dials have long gone, of course lol).
Still waiting for lesson two; would like that to be 'how to switch it off and remove back cover to get at chip.'

missrlr wrote: »

It's a shame you cannot get Divo1 to talk to him if he cannot come back for a face to face soon. Is there a pattern to the timing of pills/ eating / not eating that could help minimise the effects?

Divo One is back; spent all last evening talking to Two. Am very, very grateful DS1 is getting involved, because Two's grasp on reality has lessoned considerably since his visit to GF.

missrlr wrote: »

Other than hugs and positive thoughts I can only reiterate I think the second opinion is good, and do please get as much back up with the deterrent for daft behaviours as is possible. Hope the car vanishes soon!

Car has gone. DS2 gave the proceeds to Plumber (forgot he'd said he would repay the £50 I'd already shelled out on it).

While they were sorting out the paperwork, GF 'phoned DS2.
According to Plumber - who relayed the 'phone conversations later - Two told GF I wasn't happy with his changed diagnosis and wanted a second opinion, therefore we would be going to the doctor the next day for blood tests - so it turns out DS2 had accepted my, Ex's, and Plumber's united agreement that something isn't right with him.

Half an hour later DS2 got another call. This time it was GF's adult daughter:
"Help help! Mum's locked in the bathroom [where all her pills are] - she's hysterical and won't come out unless you're here! She wants you here by lunchtime!"
That was a physical impossibility due to distance, but nevertheless as soon as Plumber & DS got back to the Nest, Two threw all his stuff into his luggage and Plumber took him back down to the station.
Divo Two was in such a hurry he didn't explain about those calls at that point - but Two did promise to return to the Nest the next day.

An hour after DS got to GF's family home, he and GF called me - everything sweetness and light!
The next day GF 'phoned to say DS would be staying an extra day..
Then she called again at 0200 hours:
"Help help! You must tell DS he can't go to the hospital here - we've got to go back to Madrid!"
There was a right old palava in the background; clearly a busy bar and I could hear DS frantically asking people how to get to hospital.
"Please don't tell me you're out drinking?"
"Only a couple of beers, that's ok."
"No it isn't - you're both taking medications which should never be mixed with alco.."
"Here - you talk to Divo Two!"

Feel like weeping every time I recall the terror in Two's voice:
"Something's very wrong - I'm afraid I'm going mad - need to go to hospital right now! Tell her please, Mum!"

So I did; said hospital sounded the safest place for DS2, and as she knew the town she'd better take him in a taxi straight away. She reiterated that she wanted to go back to Madrid at which point I slightly lost it; told her we all knew what she wanted - but the question is, is that the best option for DS2? ..She cut off the call.

Since DS got back to the Nest, I've gleaned a bit more from him. Both police and an ambulance were called, but by then GF was in such a state that they were more worried about her! The paramedic gave DS a quick check and said he was fine - which reassured him - then GF's daughter persuaded the emergency services that she and DS could look after her Mum.. So they all got a taxi back to Granny's house.
At 0430 GF sent me a coherent, happy text saying everything was fine.

Didn't sleep very well that night.

missrlr wrote: »

We are playing the waiting game here. Have a few more consultant appointments lined up which may or may not resolve anything. My ankle is not healing well, this is one appointment. Surgery is being spoken of which in itself is of course a solution but the attendant problems post operatively then become manifold. Where there is a will there is a way. As you said others struggle on under enormous loads so am just concentrating in having one foot placed in front of the other (limping).

Oh dear, sorry to hear your ankle isn't healing easily. Are the bones correctly placed? If so, and you've still got the foam cast, then it'd be worth getting hold of some Comfrey salve to slather on all around the damaged joint. "Knitbone" is the old name; really does seem to speed up bone regrowth particularly for 'seniors' - Aunt was given it on prescription when she broke both her wrists (in Holland). Having seen your post, I asked the pharmacist here about it last night; yes it's often used these days unless the break is in plaster (therefore inaccessible). He also mentioned a treatment with magnets which shortens recovery time - something else interesting to read-up on later (I've never heard of it)?