5:2 diet

~Chameleon~

Verbatim wrote: »

Thanks Tesuhoha
I don't have any scales so try and remember to weigh myself when I go to the gym. Perhaps I should buy some but I don't want to get obsessive!

Don't bother buying scales otherwise you will become obsessive

Go by how your body looks and how your clothes fit

tesuhoha

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Don't bother buying scales otherwise you will become obsessive

Go by how your body looks and how your clothes fit

I agree but if you have them already its difficult to avoid the temptation. I have been weighing myself weekly just to keep a record but I don't lose weight every week.

alyssa_mae

tesuhoha wrote: »

I agree but if you have them already its difficult to avoid the temptation. I have been weighing myself weekly just to keep a record but I don't lose weight every week.

I've got scales but I'm afraid if I get on them and I havn't lost I'll get disheartened and give up, so I'll go by the fact my husband had to put another hole in my belt!

2nd week & 2nd fast day of the week tomorrow and looking forward to it, I have a busy day so hopefully won't have too much time to think about food. got my fruit salad and my tin of soup, a bottle of perrier water and a lemon! also been to jazzersize class twice this week and have noticed I have a lot more energy.:j

davehills

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this effectively an elaborate calorie control diet?

I mean the way it works is simply that you are cutting your weekly calorie intake by 29%.

I can see that psychologically it's easier to miss two whole days rather than cut food intake by a third every day, but isn't that in effect what's happening?

Gloomendoom

davehills wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this effectively an elaborate calorie control diet?

I mean the way it works is simply that you are cutting your weekly calorie intake by 29%.

I can see that psychologically it's easier to miss two whole days rather than cut food intake by a third every day, but isn't that in effect what's happening?

Yes. Except that it really isn't very elaborate. The beauty of it is its simplicity.

Mado

Gloomendoom wrote: »

Yes. Except that it really isn't very elaborate. The beauty of it is its simplicity.

I don't think it's quite so simple;if you go on a calorie restricted diet every day for extended periods, your body adjusts and often becomes more efficient.
Hopefully, on the fasting diet, the patterns aren't something your body an handle so well and hence the metabolism doesn't drop. Well, at least I hope so.
Plus, because the rest of the time is normal, you don't get the same guilt for eating normally when you do.

Gloomendoom

Mado wrote: »

I don't think it's quite so simple;

I agree with what you say but there is nothing complicated or mysterious about it. You are losing weight because you are eating less. The beauty of it is that by only restricting calories for only one, or two days at a time, your body never realises what is going on so it doesn't reduce its metabolic rate, unlike other calorie control diets.

Verbatim

Actually the main reason that some people are doing this is that apart from losing weight there are other health benefits. For me it's reducing the likelihood of becoming diabetic, something to do with the effect on a particular hormone, and lowering BP.

daska

Gloomendoom wrote: »

I agree with what you say but there is nothing complicated or mysterious about it. You are losing weight because you are eating less. The beauty of it is that by only restricting calories for only one, or two days at a time, your body never realises what is going on so it doesn't reduce its metabolic rate, unlike other calorie control diets.

While weightloss is obviously a factor, and the prime motivation of a lot of posters, the Horizon program also went into the dramatic effect that IF has on IGF-1 and the resultant health benefits. So it's not quite as simple as just a weightloss strategy.

Gloomendoom

daska wrote: »

While weightloss is obviously a factor, and the prime motivation of a lot of posters, the Horizon program also went into the dramatic effect that IF has on IGF-1 and the resultant health benefits. So it's not quite as simple as just a weightloss strategy.

Indeed, but my response to davehills was from the weight loss perspective.

I'm not sure if this link has been posted before but it may be of interest to those interested in the nitty gritty...

http://www.pnas.org/content/100/10/6216.full

(Don't read if you find laboratory tests on animals distasteful)