Quick Question Civil or Criminal?

Penny-Pincher!!

PrincessPlaty wrote: »

That was not the reason, he wants to meet him so that he knows who is around his children obviously,

Ummmm, I would be more worried about the birth mother being around her kids if she's that bad!

If what you're saying is true, then your partner needs to contact the SS again and get this followed up.

I find it shocking that your partner left through choice to get away from his ex but left his babies behind who don't have a choice and whom are more vulnerable:eek:

As long as the kids are fed (cold or hot) and relatively clean, there isn't much else to be done in the eyes of the law. If they are being mistreated or there are risks, then thats another matter.

PrincessPlaty

Tiddlywinks wrote: »

Why are you sending her texts? I think you should leave it to them. There aren't many ex wives / GFs that would be happy to get a text from the latest squeeze who was getting involved in a spat - particularly when she used to be a friend.

Just my thoughts...

I agree with you however I replied as if it was him replying not as me she didn't know it was me He was getting stressed with the situation I just thought it was better that i replied calmly!

Penny-Pincher!! wrote: »

Ummmm, I would be more worried about the birth mother being around her kids if she's that bad!

If what you're saying is true, then your partner needs to contact the SS again and get this followed up.

I find it shocking that your partner left through choice to get away from his ex but left his babies behind who don't have a choice and whom are more vulnerable:eek:

As long as the kids are fed (cold or hot) and relatively clean, there isn't much else to be done in the eyes of the law. If they are being mistreated or there are risks, then thats another matter.

He made a mistake he knows it and he is trying to put it right now.

Court forms have all been filled in and emailed to the solicitors to be filed tomorrow.

She has just been on the phone asking when he is bringing the children back, he has told her the children want to stay here, she said she had missed them, he reminded her that it wasn't about what he or she wanted it was about what the children want and what is best for them.

She asked what was happening now then and he told her that he thought it was best left for the courts to decide. She asked what the courts would do, he told her he didn't know and she replied ok then I will have to speak to my solicitor on Tuesday. She didn't even bother to ask when he was returning the children.

Seriously I don't get it...

clearingout

PrincessPlaty wrote: »

She has just been on the phone asking when he is bringing the children back, he has told her the children want to stay here, she said she had missed them, he reminded her that it wasn't about what he or she wanted it was about what the children want and what is best for them.

She asked what was happening now then and he told her that he thought it was best left for the courts to decide. She asked what the courts would do, he told her he didn't know and she replied ok then I will have to speak to my solicitor on Tuesday. She didn't even bother to ask when he was returning the children.

Seriously I don't get it...

so....she's been on the phone asking when he's bringing the children back but on the other hand, hasn't asked when he's returning the children? what?!

either he's keeping the children, taking the issue to court so she needs to speak to her solicitor and he's not returning the children or he's returning the children?

sounds to me like mum is getting it and dad hasn't got a clue what he's doing...

don't mess with the court system, not returning children unless there is some very evident and immediate threat to their wellbeing (and it seems prostitution, drug abuse, alcoholism etc. hasn't been an issue in the past so why now?) will not be viewed in a good light. You seriously need to get decent legal advice and work this thing through properly or you risk making a hash of it and the children will be worse off. And the children are very young to be making their own decisions from a legal point of view, although of course, once you set the court ball rolling, they will eventually be interviewed.

PrincessPlaty

clearingout wrote: »

so....she's been on the phone asking when he's bringing the children back but on the other hand, hasn't asked when he's returning the children? what?!

either he's keeping the children, taking the issue to court so she needs to speak to her solicitor and he's not returning the children or he's returning the children?

sounds to me like mum is getting it and dad hasn't got a clue what he's doing...

don't mess with the court system, not returning children unless there is some very evident and immediate threat to their wellbeing (and it seems prostitution, drug abuse, alcoholism etc. hasn't been an issue in the past so why now?) will not be viewed in a good light. You seriously need to get decent legal advice and work this thing through properly or you risk making a hash of it and the children will be worse off. And the children are very young to be making their own decisions from a legal point of view, although of course, once you set the court ball rolling, they will eventually be interviewed.

She initially was asking when the children were returning then after he said he was going through the courts just said ok then and wasn't bothered!

The applications have already been sent to the solicitors and she has been told he isn't taking them back. Wasnt that hard to understand was it?

GobbledyGook

Sounds like she's being clever and not getting into a row that would just give him more ammunition against her to me.

clearingout

GobbledyGook wrote: »

Sounds like she's being clever and not getting into a row that would just give him more ammunition against her to me.

I agree. If my ex refused to return our children and said he was going to court, I would simply put the phone down and dial my solicitor's number immediately after. There was a time when I'd have begged and pleaded and shouted and generally made a huge show of myself but those days are long gone!

PrincessPlaty

GobbledyGook wrote: »

Sounds like she's being clever and not getting into a row that would just give him more ammunition against her to me.

Honestly she really isn't that clever....

She isn't bothered about the kids and has proved that on multiple occasions, it comes across as her seeing them as providing free money more than anything else.

Feeding them as cheap as possible and spending all maintenance on clothes, shoes, nails, make up and trips to the pub for herself

clearingout

PrincessPlaty wrote: »

She initially was asking when the children were returning then after he said he was going through the courts just said ok then and wasn't bothered!

The applications have already been sent to the solicitors and she has been told he isn't taking them back. Wasnt that hard to understand was it?

what reaction would satisfy you?

PrincessPlaty

clearingout wrote: »

I agree. If my ex refused to return our children and said he was going to court, I would simply put the phone down and dial my solicitor's number immediately after. There was a time when I'd have begged and pleaded and shouted and generally made a huge show of myself but those days are long gone!

Really? The first thing i would be doing if it was me in the situation was calling the police to go and check that my children were safe and then calling my solicitors in the morning! She told him today her solicitor doesn't work on a monday hence why she is going to wait until tuesday!

He did ask her doesnt she think that she should do it sooner??!!

PrincessPlaty

clearingout wrote: »

what reaction would satisfy you?

Actually seeming bothered about the children would be a good start don't you think?