How many applications needed before a job offer.

TheImportanceOfBeingIdle

pandas66 wrote: »

tell me please............what are you uniquely knowledgeable in?

Do you really want an honest answer for that?

pandas66

TheImportanceOfBeingIdle wrote: »

Do you really want an honest answer for that?

got to worth a listen!

xjlmummy

Maybe they're relaunching that old perfume "Egoist" and Phil's going to be the model?

studentphil

pandas66 wrote: »

tell me please............what are you uniquely knowledgeable in?

I think I have a good knowledge of teaching methods in universities, knowledge of the National Fellowships in university teaching, good IT skills, knowledge of disabled people in university and I think you probably are not going to find that in someone who has office experience alone. I am sure I can learn how to fill in what ever forms this department uses and can get into doing filing and doing a purshasing orders (which are the main things someone with office experence would have).

pandas66

Unless the candidate worked in the University sp.

Many people have various skills aquired when you've been working for several years in several companies.

Where I work now is office based but nothing like the office based job I held for few years in an Drawing Office.

But I shall be rude here sp, you have no knowledge of working practises as you ave never worked. Sorry but there are a lot of people who will have the skills you mentioned and in reality too.

studentphil

pandas66 wrote: »

Unless the candidate worked in the University sp.

Many people have various skills aquired when you've been working for several years in several companies.

Where I work now is office based but nothing like the office based job I held for few years in an Drawing Office.

But I shall be rude here sp, you have no knowledge of working practises as you ave never worked. Sorry but there are a lot of people who will have the skills you mentioned and in reality too.

That is true if someone has worked in a university before they maybe able to compete with me on those skills, but as I dont know who else will apply or control that then I have to hope for a bit of luck.

pandas66

studentphil wrote: »

I think I have a good knowledge of teaching methods in universities, knowledge of the National Fellowships in university teaching, good IT skills, knowledge of disabled people in university and I think you probably are not going to find that in someone who has office experience alone. I am sure I can learn how to fill in what ever forms this department uses and can get into doing filing and doing a purshasing orders (which are the main things someone with office experence would have).

as you edited it I shall re answer....

You really do have more to learn than you think, office work isn't just blaisely form filing in.....you have to be quite pedantic about it.
No one thing you don't know is who else will apply but assume someone who is more qualified and probably spot on for the job will. Thats what the Uni will hope for.
I think you should've spent some time gaining real work/life experience than glorifying your educated skills. Its good you can big them up, so to speak, but you really need to be able to put it into practise.
When you start a new job there is always a 'settling in period' where they forgive you your mistakes, but is the job an experienced position or junior/trainee role? I can't see a junior having much purchase ledger freedom!

studentphil

I dont know really what I can do as I am never going to even get taken on as a Temp agency as I can word process at any speed that they would require. Therefore, looking for a job that does not require typing skills and that I can use my experience and passion to overcome my lack of office experence as I can see no way I can get office experience.

astonsmummy

studentphil wrote: »

The job I have my heart set on does ask for office experience (which I don't have) however, it is in a sector that I know a lot about and I think that is probably not a quality that someone with tons of office experience can bring. I think I have a huge strength in I have a passion and a good knowledge of the sector which probably not many others can bring.

Phil, you may not have office experience as such but i'm sure your pretty computer illiterate and coupled with your knowledge of the sector could swing you the job, it was silly of me to compare the sort of jobs i do to yours as they are tottally different, if a job which i would think of is advertised and specifies you need an NVQ 3, you wont get it even with lots of experience.
EDIT - i hope you dont think i'm being mean as i'm not, just trying to help

studentphil

pandas66 wrote: »

as you edited it I shall re answer....

You really do have more to learn than you think, office work isn't just blaisely form filing in.....you have to be quite pedantic about it.
No one thing you don't know is who else will apply but assume someone who is more qualified and probably spot on for the job will. Thats what the Uni will hope for.
I think you should've spent some time gaining real work/life experience than glorifying your educated skills. Its good you can big them up, so to speak, but you really need to be able to put it into practise.
When you start a new job there is always a 'settling in period' where they forgive you your mistakes, but is the job an experienced position or junior/trainee role? I can't see a junior having much purchase ledger freedom!

It is not a trainee position, but it is the lowest job you can get in the department.