MAJOR help needed... typical LA

marliepanda

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Not entirely sure what you mean by that Marlie; the TRO wants you to "let them in" to discuss it face to face? There's nothing to discuss. You've told them in writing the times the property is available for viewing.

You are in such a strong position not needing a reference. They get away with this bullying behaviour by threatening most tenants with a bad one.

Yup. He said he was 'stuck in the middle' and that they just wanted to come 'inspect' and resolve this.

No mention of this viewer, I imagine he's ran a mile. I'm ginna give them both barrels when they come.

marliepanda

johnbusby wrote: »

I agree, you owe them nothing whatsoever so I wouldn't even entertain the thought of granting them access for the remainder of the tenancy after the way they have behaved.

I won't be. I think this is being called an inspection not a viewing now, prob to win round TRO so after this I'm not due any inspections and Wont be having any

RAS

marliepanda wrote: »

Called the 'landlady' and she denied it was her. I may have got it wrong (only one of her name listed in my area, but perhaps shes not in my area)

Anyway, TRO called back and said will I let them in to resolve this later. TBH I'm very !!!!ed off, but he has said hes explained the legalities of it to them... and he wants it to be resolved going forward.

(ie they want to gain access to view whenever they want)

What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are legally entitled to quiet enjoyment.

If this person cannot act on your behalf ask to speak to his boss.

And ask him exactly what he explained to the LL? Ask him to put it all on an e-mail and to send copies to you and the bully, so you are in no doubt that he has actually told them.

Ellie83

And there is no telling what the LA told the TRO (she has denied us access since the beginning, has agreed and cancelled appointments, we just would like to reach an amicable compromise, blah blah blah).

I would not let them in at this stage. Not after being threatened and harassed in this way. I usually am a calm person but I am fuming on your behalf right now.

Ellie83

And as for "inspections", the same principle applies: they ask for your permission and you agree on a date and time that suits you.

marliepanda

Ellie83 wrote: »

And as for "inspections", the same principle applies: they ask for your permission and you agree on a date and time that suits you.

He said that he said what they were proposing to do was illegal (breaking in etc) but I should try and resolve it.

SIGH. I'm not letting the director in, he is a bully. I am willing to talk to anyone but 3 people who Ive already spoken to (and maybe that will be 4 after today!)

I have in writing my new viewing time (ie NONE until further notice)

Ben_Reeve_Lewis_2

Playing straight into your hands Marlie. Evidence like that is a godsend for a TRO or similar officer.

If you cant get hold of your TRO or similar officer call the police anyway. They wont do anything but take their names and shoulder flash numbers as witnesses for future action.

The locksmith threat will sink them. If a tenant unreasonably denies access then the landlord or their agent should seek an injunction for re-entry, not force entry.

Section 6 of the Criminal Law Act 1977 states:-

Violence for securing entry.E+W
(1)Subject to the following provisions of this section, any person who, without lawful authority, uses or threatens violence for the purpose of securing entry into any premises for himself or for any other person is guilty of an offence, provided that—
(a)there is someone present on those premises at the time who is opposed to the entry which the violence is intended to secure; and
(b)the person using or threatening the violence knows that that is the case.

Watch out for this and put the police on notice of this legislation.

You might want to also consider obtaining an injunction to restrain the agent too.

tbs624

marliepanda wrote: »

Anyway, TRO called back and said will I let them in to resolve this later. TBH I'm very !!!!ed off, but he has said hes explained the legalities of it to them... and he wants it to be resolved going forward.

(ie they want to gain access to view whenever they want)

Has the TRO offered to be physically present if you did agree to let the LA in?

marliepanda

Ben_Reeve_Lewis wrote: »

Playing straight into your hands Marlie. Evidence like that is a godsend for a TRO or similar officer.

If you cant get hold of your TRO or similar officer call the police anyway. They wont do anything but take their names and shoulder flash numbers as witnesses for future action.

The locksmith threat will sink them. If a tenant unreasonably denies access then the landlord or their agent should seek an injunction for re-entry, not force entry.

Section 6 of the Criminal Law Act 1977 states:-

Violence for securing entry.E+W
(1)Subject to the following provisions of this section, any person who, without lawful authority, uses or threatens violence for the purpose of securing entry into any premises for himself or for any other person is guilty of an offence, provided that—
(a)there is someone present on those premises at the time who is opposed to the entry which the violence is intended to secure; and
(b)the person using or threatening the violence knows that that is the case.

Watch out for this and put the police on notice of this legislation.

You might want to also consider obtaining an injunction to restrain the agent too.

I thought about getting some sort of order against them for the remainder of the tenancy, but didnt know if it was overkill or how long it would take...

Thank you for the legislation though, I will have it handy. URGH

marliepanda

tbs624 wrote: »

Has the TRO offered to be physically present if you did agree to let the LA in?

No. Should I ask him to be?

He isnt a TRO he just deals with housing regulations and apparently tenants rights.