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  • pineapple
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    Cappella wrote: »
    Good luck Mrs- moneypenny - I've been through four Ofsteds and none of them were much fun. Never quite sure if they're a necessary evil or just plain evil. I'm glad they don't inspect retired teachers, suspect I'd fail miserably:):)
    Is an Ofsted inspection anything like a Supporting People inspection?
    In my sheltered housing days I spent days in a panic beforehand with file notes spread over the office floor as I tried to make them 'impressive'. The thing is I was a hands on warden and spent more time with the tenants than holed up in the office.
    Plus - at the request of 'management' I also had to rewrite the whole of the scheme manual to include all the mosques in the area and all things Asian. We were indeed slap bang in the middle of an Asian area but the Housing Association had failed miserably over the years to get any interest at all from the local community.
  • mrs-moneypenny
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    edited 29 June 2016 at 7:24PM
    Ofsted is a school inspection to make sure that all teaching is done the proper curriculum with appropriate lesson plans. We all run round like headless chickens panicking once it's announced then spend the day the inspectors are there walking round on eggshells on our best behaviour then the next day go back to the preferred teaching styles and relax. The kids find it quite amusing I believe.
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  • pineapple
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    Okays - your starter for 10. Can anyone explain what her reasoning was in doing that? (Note to self - study her eyes in recent photos - it would be "early onset of " but you never know......).

    EDIT; Just googled asking how old she is - born 1954 - so not that likely yet....but its possible....
    Hey watch it. I'm even older!
  • maryb
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    Am I right in thinking that under Labour's constitution, if the other MPs are sufficiently disciplined to put up a single challenger, they would automatically become leader. Then Corbyn's threat to stand again would depend on him getting sufficient nominations from his fellow MPs - which he would struggle with. (I can think of three, John McDonnell, Diane Abbott and Emily Thornberry). I was under the impression that it's only if it goes to a vote of the party as a whole that the activists get a say
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  • maryb
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    Just checked. I was thinking of this bit

    Where there is no vacancy, nominations
    may be sought by potential challengers
    each year prior to the annual session of
    party conference. In this case any
    nomination must be supported by 20 per
    cent of the Commons members of the PLP.
    Nominations not attaining this threshold
    shall be null and void.


    However the next clause goes on to say that affiliated organisations can also nominate. So MPs could still find Corbyn is nominated against their wishes.
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
  • monnagran
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    Cappella wrote: »
    Good luck Mrs- moneypenny - I've been through four Ofsteds and none of them were much fun. Never quite sure if they're a necessary evil or just plain evil. I'm glad they don't inspect retired teachers, suspect I'd fail miserably:):)

    Me too Capella. In fact I'd probably be in prison by now if I was still teaching.

    I do remember when they started Ofsteding nursery schools. Our school had a nursery department and they had an impending Ofsted. In our area all the nurseries got together and made up a large box of all the items that the inspectors made known that they expected to find.
    When a school was about to have an inspection they put out a call and the school that had the Ofsted box rushed it over to them.

    I often wondered if the inspectors realised that they were looking at the same coloured doll etcetera in every school they visited in that area.

    If any inspectors are reading along, do not panic. This was a long time ago and I expect everything is hunky dory now. ( Crosses fingers.)

    I'm off subject again. Sorry.

    I am a bit bemused by the general panic and weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.
    Anyone would think that the end of the world was imminent.
    After the war, (stifle your yawns please) the whole world was in turmoil, not just Europe. A lot of the world was bombed almost to extinction, whole countries' populations were displaced and had no homeland, never mind no home. Millions were starving, yes in Europe too. Governments didn't exist as dictators liked total power and most of them had disappeared anyway.
    Britain , who had officially won, was struggling itself, with towns and cities destroyed, economically bankrupt, in hock to America, a debt that was only paid off after 60 years, and because of Austerity it's people were on less rations than they had endured during the war. Not only food but clothes, soap, coal, blankets you name it we didn't have it.
    Nevertheless we rolled up our sleeves and set about not only rebuilding our country but also helping to feed the starving people of our recent enemies and rebuilding their communities. Refugees had to be cared for, hopefully repatriated, survivors of prison camps medically treated and transported back to their homes to see if any of their families had survived...............I could go on but will spare you.

    But of course all this pales into insignificance now that our comfortable 21st century living looks to be threatened. For heaven's sake, how does having to show a passport at borders and expand our trade to the rest of the world outside Europe, or pay a bit more for our French wine , or give up our cheap holidays......

    Yes, I know I am being hopelessly simplistic, but honestly, WHERE IS OUR BACKBONE?

    Sorry. ( hitches sackcloth over shoulder and rubs in another handful of ashes.)

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    Have trouble remembering how to fly.
  • nuatha
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    maryb wrote: »
    Just checked. I was thinking of this bit

    Where there is no vacancy, nominations
    may be sought by potential challengers
    each year prior to the annual session of
    party conference. In this case any
    nomination must be supported by 20 per
    cent of the Commons members of the PLP.
    Nominations not attaining this threshold
    shall be null and void.


    However the next clause goes on to say that affiliated organisations can also nominate. So MPs could still find Corbyn is nominated against their wishes.

    The rules are ambiguous and need clarifying.
    Without Corbyn resigning there isn't actually a vacancy, therefore its likely that challengers will need to meet the nomination criteria but the existing leader will not need to be nominated.

    Strangely the restructuring of the leadership voting system was expected to weaken the trade unions and therefore the left wing of the party. Something else that isn't working as expected.

    If Corbyn is re-elected, the Parliamentary Labour Party has a real problem and the Labour Party will need to find a lot of candidates to replace de-selected MPs.
  • GreyQueen
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    edited 29 June 2016 at 9:07PM
    :p I just made my Dad laugh in a phone convo. We were discussing the referendum fallout and admitted that it was fascinating. I remarked that it was quite the most interesting thing since the poll tax and I never thought they'd be able to top that - it's so hard to write a successful sequel, isn't it?

    I'm continuing to forage media widely, from the 'Hedge to the FT and back again via conventional and unconventional media. It's very very interesting times.

    ETA; Monnagran, I am hooting like a loon when reading and occasionally hearing IRL some precious little darlings fulminating about their sufferings as a result of a decision which has made absolutely no differences to their lives thus far. What a bunch of great big crybabies.

    Perhaps they should sit down and talk to my Nan who spent three hours in an oncology dept this aft, having been waiting for weeks to see if she would be having her leg amputated. In her nineties and not a word of self-pity or weakness. She could tell them some blood-curdling tales about hiding under her kitchen table with her two babies in her arms as an enemy fighter plane machine-gunned her street. And about the hardships of the thirties when people were close to starvation in this country and a pair of shoes was a luxury item.

    Great Aunty Dolly, the east end matriarch on one side of the family would've given these moaning minnies the sharp side of her tongue and no mistake, maysherestinpeace.

    Sheesh, I just wish the bratocracy would put a bleedin' sock in it.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)
  • maryb
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    Not all of them are whingeing Grey Queen - some of them are genuinely anxious, never having lived through Interesting Times before and not being able to take the media reports with a sufficiently large pinch of salt. And if you are at that stage in your life when you are about to start on your career it will make finding a good job even harder, because recruitment is bound to be scaled back. Project Fear has left its mark
    It doesn't matter if you are a glass half full or half empty sort of person. Keep it topped up! Cheers!
  • GreyQueen
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    :( Then they'll grow up quickly - I and my peers became of working age in a horrendous recession with several million unemployed. That was pretty damned depressing and it was really happening, not a maybe event.

    Perhaps they should heed my late Grandma; don't scream until yer bit.
    Every increased possession loads us with a new weariness.
    John Ruskin
    Veni, vidi, eradici
    (I came, I saw, I kondo'd)
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