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teenage daughter to get no money plz help

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  • bazza5070
    bazza5070 Posts: 142 Forumite
    I see many every day, can only base it on my own experiences, havent seen any change over the years, just seems to be getting worse, where do you draw the line, the country is almost bankrupt as it is!!!
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  • princessdon
    princessdon Posts: 6,902 Forumite
    The exception that most people take isn't the situation but the attitude of the parent (OP). I work with teenage mums - I have helped on other threads with support to stay in Eduction, the grants, Care to Learn, the support available. My sister was a teenage parent - It doesn't mean the end of them as a worker/taxpayer and = life on benefits.

    But OP came accross as who is going to pay? No mention of what support to keep her on the right track (and education isn't A Levels alone - it can be vocational). Her daughter is a child - It is far better to be able to keep some form of childhood - (mix with others) - yes she will have aditional responsbilibites - but life on benefits isn't the correct way to go.

    I object to the way OP wants me to pay her for child and grandchild (when she won't) and won't give the motivation and support the child needs. She was given excellent advice to keep her in education and support her - but the post and other posts are all about money, that isn't something that can sit right with me.

    Maybe it's my job - but the ones that go on to succeed don't all go the college - but they are not hand fed benefits as a solution either.
  • pink_princess
    pink_princess Posts: 13,581 Forumite
    edited 10 July 2012 at 10:04PM
    bazza5070 wrote: »
    I see many every day, can only base it on my own experiences, havent seen any change over the years, just seems to be getting worse, where do you draw the line, the country is almost bankrupt as it is!!!
    You see many what?

    What is getting worse? You are spouting Comments with no evidence.

    As for the country is bankrupt, who caused that IYHO?
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  • bazza5070
    bazza5070 Posts: 142 Forumite
    You really are a very serious person arent you, this is a forum and views are aired, we all have different ones and are entitled to express them. I have already said these are my personal views and make no difference to how I do my job within the benefit system. Relax a bit, none of this is going to make a great deal of difference if any to our lives, digest and discuss.

    By the way, what is IYHO?
    Skint but Debt Free at Last :T
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    Sixer wrote: »
    However, the teen pregnancy rate is dropping. By a good margin. It's now at its lowest since 1969 - a time when contraception WASN'T freely available:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17190185

    It certainly was!
  • System
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    bazza5070 wrote: »
    By the way, what is IYHO?
    IYOH=In Your Honest Opinion (i think..)
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  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    mazza111 wrote: »

    I feel really sorry for school leavers today. There isn't much open to them. My son has left school as I said, not very academic, but good with his hands. For some reason, wants to become a plumber/heating engineer. But do you think he can get a start? He's written to loads of companies and only 2 have had the decency to reply. One was a refusal, one was we'll send you an application that never arrived. We're still waiting, and emailing them back and forward. And he's not pregnant :)

    Most employers offering apprenticeships want young people who've done a year's vocational course at college. This ensures some basic technical skills and weeds out those who aren't motivated. Very few employers recruit 16 year old school leavers.
  • margaretclare
    margaretclare Posts: 10,789 Forumite
    I agree with princessdon in post # 91. S/he has said it all. It was the OP's words (from memory) 'daughter left school, is 3 mths pregnant, how am I expected to keep her if THEY won't give me/her any money?' These words, to many of us, are like a red rag to a bull.

    BTW about contraception. 'The Pill' arrived in the mid-60s but initially wasn't freely and easily-accessible to everybody. Some of us in the following decade lobbied hard for contraception to be freely and easily-available whether you were married or not.

    However, condoms have been around for a very long time, since the First World War or thereabouts. They were issued freely to servicemen in WWII to prevent STD among troops. It was possible for some of us to plan our families for a very long time before the Pill. And there is always that little word 'no'!
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  • Pollycat
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    I agree with princessdon in post # 91. S/he has said it all. It was the OP's words (from memory) 'daughter left school, is 3 mths pregnant, how am I expected to keep her if THEY won't give me/her any money?' These words, to many of us, are like a red rag to a bull.

    Margaretclare
    I made a very similar point several days ago (post #30) when some posters said there had been some judgemental comments made.
    Pollycat wrote: »
    To be fair to some of the posters, I think they have taken exception to this part of the OP's post:
    magzy1827 wrote: »
    how do they expect me to manage if they give me no money to keep her ??

    To me, it's not the fact this girl left school without qualifications or is (either by accident or design) now pregnant - it's the fact that the OP seems to be expecting someone (that would be us taxpayers then) to give her money to 'keep' this girl.

    I tend to support those people who are asking about eligibility to benefits against the 'benefit bashers' but I think the sentence above from the OP has set the tone of the thread - rightly or wrongly.
    She may have just worded her post clumsily.
  • margaretclare
    margaretclare Posts: 10,789 Forumite
    edited 11 July 2012 at 10:58AM
    I agree with you, Pollycat.
    it's the fact that the OP seems to be expecting someone (that would be us taxpayers then) to give her money to 'keep' this girl.

    Yes, that's exactly what it is.
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