teenage daughter to get no money plz help

Ellejmorgan

mikey_bach wrote: »

Why doesnt it make sense

Thats the amount I.S pays for a child.
We still pay for children on claims
http://www.focusondisability.org.uk/brates-1.html dependent children 64.99


As long as the youngest is under 5 then we continue to pay.

When they go off I.S to ESA or JSA we convert them to CTC, I have never seen a case yet where they are worse off

It isn't for the child it's for the Mother who has an under 5, after that she will be transferred to JSA..

She will also claim Child tax credits which is approx £200 per month per child and child benefit..
There is no extra payment for a new baby, this stopped approx two years ago..

Also council tax & rent on top of that and £24.80 per month in milk tokens until the child is 4..

You are thinking of when it was all in one payment, as far as I know this started being phased out in 2005/6...

debrag

princessdon wrote: »

UC won't stop it (2K a month is still a whack and half) - in fact I'm expecting people to take full advantage of the UC rules (ie work bare minimum so working and therefore the cap won't fit.

But you are 100% right - where is the incentive for the like's of Op's daughter to remain in education, work and provide her and her child a living. Benefits is easier and more lucrative.

They really need to make benefits low (much lower than now) where they are given houses they really don't want, where the standard of living is so low it really is a last resort. Until they do situations like this will continue.

you just wait for the human rights bang wagon to start if this happened.

debrag

scootw1 wrote: »

I'm afraid to say if you haven't got time as a parent to tell your kids things like this (i.e. look after them) you should not have had them. No matter what else is going on in your life you make time for your kids and all that entails.

They'll be too busy down the pub. My parents never had that talk with me but they both worked full time and I knew nothing of claiming benefits.

Dunroamin

mazza111 wrote: »

See the last load of posts have been full of advice as usual then.

Stop kids having sex? Yeah right! The more you tell a teenager no, the more they will say yes. The best you can do is teach them about responsibility and contraception and hope to god they have the sense to use it.

Back to advice please.

I still reckon one of the training courses or college would be best for this teenager.

And yet that was the way it used to work for most teenagers.

Mind you, parents used to exert some discipline and not be worried about being their children's "friend" in those days.

mikey_bach

Ellejmorgan wrote: »

It isn't for the child it's for the Mother who has an under 5, after that she will be transferred to JSA..

She will also claim Child tax credits which is approx £200 per month per child and child benefit..
There is no extra payment for a new baby, this stopped approx two years ago..

Also council tax & rent on top of that and £24.80 per month in milk tokens until the child is 4..

You are thinking of when it was all in one payment, as far as I know this started being phased out in 2005/6...

No we still pay for children on I.S, I do it every day,

if a new baby is born and we are paying for the children then we add them on to the claim and pay

All claims after 2005 yes they claim CTC but on the the old claims, yes we are still paying.

Anyway with regards to the OPs daughter I think there needs to be any more child care places available for young mothers so they can return to education if they want or work to get them out the benefit trap....

flight747

Morlock wrote: »

Income Support is paid to the mother, £71 (over 25) per week until the youngest child is 5 years old.

Not all of them thought.

mazza111

Dunroamin wrote: »

And yet that was the way it used to work for most teenagers.

Mind you, parents used to exert some discipline and not be worried about being their children's "friend" in those days.

Disagree completely. It was different days when we were younger. There wasn't all the sex on tv, sex in teen magazines etc etc. I'm not condoning teen pregnancy, btw, but totally disagree with you being able to stop kids having sex in the first place. As I've already said, this lass would be fee to marry in Scotland if she so wished, sex at 16 is perfectly legal. But I do agree that more lassies are needing to keep their legs shut.

You can talk to kids about it until you're blue in the face, you can supply condoms, you can't go with them and make sure they use the condoms. Thankfully none of my children have gone that way. My dd is 21, my ds is almost 16. TBH it's the lad I'm more worried about, cos at that age, that's all they think about

SingleSue

But becoming a parent whilst still in your teens is not always bad...my parents married young and had children young (mum was 17 dad 19 and yes, they were married then).

They have never claimed out of work benefits (despite dad being involved in a terrible accident when I was 2....as soon as he was out of hospital, he was door to door selling on double crutches), tax credits didn't exist in their day, they own their own home, mortage free since 1974 and dad retired at normal pension age with a decent private pension.

They have been married for 52 years now, together for 54 years and have never been a drain on society.

Morlock

SingleSue wrote: »

They have been married for 52 years now, together for 54 years and have never been a drain on society.

Unemployment rate throughout the 50s-60s around 3%, unemployment rate 2012 8.2%. Getting a job is easier when there are more jobs available.

princessdon

I see some remarkable single parents - some that I would be so proud if my own, but they don't go down the benefits route.

And to the poster that said more childcare needs to be available to study. It's not possible to have more. They have care to learn (where ANY nursery is paid) any childcarer who is OFSTED registered, so childminder, out of schools, nursery anywhere.

Plus holiday retainers pay, plus travel to and from, plus FT even if course is 16 hours.

Plus they get college help.

The help to keep teenage parents in education (and accidents can and do happen, even with mature adults) is vast. There is ZERO excuse for not staying in education - other than they don't want to.

If someone starts a course before 19 (even a degree) the WHOLE course is paid i/c childcare. 4 year degree - 4 year guaranteed childcare.