Would You Go On the Jeremy Kyle Show?

balletshoes

jellyhead wrote: »

As part of the 'underclass' (we're poor and live on a council estate) I would like to point out that the guests on Jezza are not representative of poor/working class folk. Most of us care for our children properly, work, encourage our children in school, use contraception, etc.

Most of his guests seem to have problems with mental health, learning difficulties or drugs or alcohol in addition to being poorly educated/of low IQ. They are the exception rather than the norm.

This might be better on its own thread, but if you're in legitimate employment, you're not part of the underclass, in my opinion. Working class nowadays, to me, means you have a job, or you want a legitimate job, or you're working towards a legitimate job (ie relevant further education etc).
The underclass either don't want a legitimate job, or don't want to work at all, and they expect that the benefits system will see them and their dependants right.

Svenena

balletshoes wrote: »

This might be better on its own thread, but if you're in legitimate employment, you're not part of the underclass, in my opinion. Working class nowadays, to me, means you have a job, or you want a legitimate job, or you're working towards a legitimate job (ie relevant further education etc).
The underclass either don't want a legitimate job, or don't want to work at all, and they expect that the benefits system will see them and their dependants right.

Agreed, and they certainly wouldn't have a mortgage to pay. The 'underclass' commonly referred to in the media are those living off benefits through their own choice (not circumstances) and making no effort to change things. It's a tiny minority of the population, but shows like JK make it seem more widespread than it is.

I can't stand Jeremy myself - I particularly dislike the terms he uses towards woman. I don't often get to catch the show as I work Mon-Fri, but I must admit I do enjoy watching it when I have a day off, and I'm not ashamed of that either, despite some of the comments that have been made on here about those that watch it.

No-one is forced to go on it. To me it's similar to reading this board, or one of those trashy magazines full of real life stories - I like hearing about how other people live their lives (even if, in the case of JK, I am frequently astounded at how that is!).

Edwardia

As far as I'm concerned, 'Come Dine With Me' is chav TV let alone Jeremy Kyle. I don't know anyone who has been on his show or would do so.

I haven't watched the show but have read interviews with Jeremy Kyle and I don't think live entertainment is the way to treat people with huge issues. It's the 21st century equivalent of bear-baiting.

tesuhoha

Edwardia wrote: »

As far as I'm concerned, 'Come Dine With Me' is chav TV let alone Jeremy Kyle. I don't know anyone who has been on his show or would do so.

I haven't watched the show but have read interviews with Jeremy Kyle and I don't think live entertainment is the way to treat people with huge issues. It's the 21st century equivalent of bear-baiting.

Oh, I love watching Come Dine With Me.

I think its (JK) very cruel and he seems to enjoy it when the guests lose control of themselves.

Lotus-eater

I like CDWM as well. Oh yes alot of the people on it just want to be on TV, or get their particular view across, but most groups work out to be fairly normal.

I don't know how much the bloke talking in the background is paid, but it's not enough. LOL!

Kiboko

I've never actually watched a whole show,but what I saw was enough to convince me that a) I would never go on it and b) if anyone I knew did, I would never acknowledge that I knew them.

worried_jim

You get £1800 for each appearance which is why they all say yes to a D.N.A test as you have to go back and hey presto- another £1800. You also get a night in a hotel with a free bar.
All very attractive to your average benefits scumbag.

Lotus-eater

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/oct/08/mondaymediasection2

A few years out of date, but I doubt if it will have changed.




Do they really get £1800? You would think by now it would be out and about exactly how much they are paid, yet it still seems to be a contested amount.

melancholly

worried_jim wrote: »

You get £1800 for each appearance which is why they all say yes to a D.N.A test as you have to go back and hey presto- another £1800. You also get a night in a hotel with a free bar.
All very attractive to your average benefits scumbag.

Or to people who are desperate and not really capable of understanding what they've agreed to.... There are massive issues of mental health problems and capacity to consent. It's mocking people with problems.

Although I'd also say that about much reality tv. The deluded people at the early stages of the x factor are just as vulnerable but are subjected to a baying crowd. Lots of these people genuinely need help.... Shame there is such little understanding of mental health and such scarce resources allocated to deal with it.....

As much as I hate the phrase 'broken Britain', this show demonstrates it. I don't mean the problems of the guests, I mean the wider appetite to laugh at them and trivialise everything into a single one liner. Everything about it is desperately sad (in it's original sense).

Welshwoofs

jellyhead wrote: »

As part of the 'underclass' (we're poor and live on a council estate) I would like to point out that the guests on Jezza are not representative of poor/working class folk. Most of us care for our children properly, work, encourage our children in school, use contraception, etc.

You've just defined 'underclass' as being poor and living on a council estate but that's not my definition. The underclass are these people whom education passed by; no qualifications, no work history to speak of (and no inclination to do so), often parented by people who also haven't worked and yes...all the issues of profligate breeding, alcohol/subsubstance misuse, violence, crime, poor parenting skills etc etc.

Person_one wrote: »

Look on it as a chance to count yourself lucky for the opportunities and good fortune you've had in life.

You make your own opportunities in this life; very few get them handed on a platter.