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Who's reading Fifty Shades of Grey?

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  • *Louise*
    *Louise* Posts: 9,197 Forumite
    Birdie85 wrote: »

    Trying to read a 'normal' book now though and I'm thinking, 'Where are the bedroom antics Mrs Writer?!' :rotfl:


    I know what you mean - I've gone from the 50 shades trilogy to 'The Help' (about the treatment of black maids in 1960's Mississippi)......talk about the other end of the spectrum lol
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  • daisiegg
    daisiegg Posts: 5,395 Forumite
    AngelsMadv wrote: »

    The book is a fantasy, a love story, a tale of emotional triumph over turmoil. Yes it's lacking in vocab, and a bit similar throughout but there is a reason it is such a hit and selling out. Don't let the snob or anti-snob value get to you and give it your own take. It in no way portrays S&M as bad IMO. It portrays that you shouldn't attempt to do it on someone who isn't ready, and for that I agree. Just in the same way you wouldn't expect to teach A-level maths to a 3 year old!

    Yes, it does. It makes out that the only reason someone would be into BDSM is if he was somehow damaged, had a bad past, had been abused, didn't feel worthy of real love, etc etc. This is absolutely not the case and is pretty insulting to the many happy, healthy, undamaged people who enjoy it!
  • jackieb
    jackieb Posts: 27,605 Forumite
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    I've got into it now! I'm 75% through the first book and now i'm not caring about them not being well written. :o:p OH goes away for a fortnight on Thursday and he's taking his kindle with him, and I still have the 2nd and 3rd books to read.

    Are the Charlaine Harris books raunchy? I have 9 of them not read, that aren't on a kindle!
  • AngelsMadv
    AngelsMadv Posts: 2,668 Forumite
    daisiegg wrote: »
    Yes, it does. It makes out that the only reason someone would be into BDSM is if he was somehow damaged, had a bad past, had been abused, didn't feel worthy of real love, etc etc. This is absolutely not the case and is pretty insulting to the many happy, healthy, undamaged people who enjoy it!

    How does it? This is only your impression of it.

    If I tell you, after having read it, that I didn't find that, then I didn't find that! There really is no more to say on it.

    Why does it stipulate you have to be dark to get into it? Ana hasn't that past, and she readily accepts it as the books move forward. They turn into what most would describe as a perfectly happy family by the end yet they still have their "fun". This is exactly as I pictured it. It was hot, horny, turned me on etc to think of both sides of the coin. I didn't for one second think "Oh those nasty so-and-sos tying people up and spanking them". Come on, get real!

    This book is written in the majority about two people, not an entire scene - how could they? The story wouldn't be, well, the story!

    Just like Grand theft auto doesn't make me think in the real world I can gun people down for fun and spank !!!!!s and rob them, neither did 50 have a similar damning affect.

    What it did do was remind me to be more attentive to my other half. Nothing more. And it's working wonders TYVM.

    PS - My sister is a dominatrix - this may influence my views! :rotfl::o
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  • AngelsMadv
    AngelsMadv Posts: 2,668 Forumite
    jackieb wrote: »
    I've got into it now! I'm 75% through the first book and now i'm not caring about them not being well written. :o:p OH goes away for a fortnight on Thursday and he's taking his kindle with him, and I still have the 2nd and 3rd books to read.

    Are the Charlaine Harris books raunchy? I have 9 of them not read, that aren't on a kindle!

    You could read the .pdfs on your PC, Jackie - that's what I did. No need for a kindle. PM me if you need them.
    I am firmly across the line. I won't impose my values on you if you keep away from mine.
    Updated 14/10/14 :A
  • jackieb
    jackieb Posts: 27,605 Forumite
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    AngelsMadv wrote: »
    You could read the .pdfs on your PC, Jackie - that's what I did. No need for a kindle. PM me if you need them.

    Thank you. :) But I like reading in my bed and I don't fancy humphing the PC up the stairs. :D
  • daisiegg
    daisiegg Posts: 5,395 Forumite
    AngelsMadv wrote: »
    How does it? This is only your impression of it.

    If I tell you, after having read it, that I didn't find that, then I didn't find that! There really is no more to say on it.

    Why does it stipulate you have to be dark to get into it? Ana hasn't that past, and she readily accepts it as the books move forward. They turn into what most would describe as a perfectly happy family by the end yet they still have their "fun". This is exactly as I pictured it. It was hot, horny, turned me on etc to think of both sides of the coin. I didn't for one second think "Oh those nasty so-and-sos tying people up and spanking them". Come on, get real!

    This book is written in the majority about two people, not an entire scene - how could they? The story wouldn't be, well, the story!

    Just like Grand theft auto doesn't make me think in the real world I can gun people down for fun and spank !!!!!s and rob them, neither did 50 have a similar damning affect.

    What it did do was remind me to be more attentive to my other half. Nothing more. And it's working wonders TYVM.

    PS - My sister is a dominatrix - this may influence my views! :rotfl::o

    It is not 'only my impression of it' - it is the impression of a LOT of people. You only have to check out discussions of it by BDSM communities online to see that.

    I've only read the first book so I don't know how it progresses, but at the end of the first book (which is how I've left it - have no intention of reading any more of the rubbish) she has left him because she thinks he's so f**ked up.

    He has spent the whole book not allowing himself to be touched (i.e. - he's oh so damaged!) and there have been numerous references to his childhood (crack wh*re mother and the domme that 'abused' him in Ana's eyes when he was 15). On many occasions Ana says things like "This must be why he's into all this, he doesn't think he's worthy of being loved" etc etc. What other message is that sending out other than "He is into BDSM because he's damaged"?!?!

    Anyway, as I said, I have only read the first book so if you say that all corrects itself as the books go on, I'll take your word for it.
  • rachbc
    rachbc Posts: 4,461 Forumite
    I agree with you Daisiegg, thats very much the impression I got and from what I know of the later books that seems to be reinforced - he likes to beat women that look like his crack !!!!! mum to punish her for neglecting him - I mean come on armchair psychology or what.

    Its mis-representation of BDSM annoys me even more than the appalling writing.
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  • jackieb
    jackieb Posts: 27,605 Forumite
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    :D

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  • Lotus-eater
    Lotus-eater Posts: 10,789 Forumite
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    edited 24 July 2012 at 9:46PM
    I can see both sides, yes this book portrays this man as a mucked up individual and it seems that's why he's into SM, but it doesn't say everyone who does it, is.
    Ana also seems to like it at times, but she isn't mucked up.

    I would have prefered a caveat in there which did say something like, everyone who likes BDSM obviously isn't like Mr Grey and doesn't like to be touched, or has a weird thing about food, or had a terribly *ucked up childhood, but it is the authors fantasy and she wrote it as such, not as a PC masterpiece.

    People on any specialised forum will be annoyed at something as mainstream as this about the subject.
    In fact there has been people saying on the bdsm forum I glanced at, for what it is, a literary bit of trash, it's not bad.
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