Fined £275 for watching YOUTUBE

shaun_from_Africa

Surely if the defendent doesn't turn up but they have submitted some sort of defence letter (as in the case here), wouldn't the prosecution still at least have to show some evidence that an offence had been committed?

DCFC79

OP there must be something more to this, did the letters you receive look official ? Was it printed on headed paper ?

Flyboy152

fluffnutter wrote: »

I know I should read the whole thread but... 1) the BBC doesn't fine anyone, 2) you don't need a licence to watch non-live telly and 3) you don't need a licence to watch DVDs.

In conclusion, the OP might well have been fined £275 but I bet it's not for the misdemeanors quoted above.

Finally, after sixty-eight posts someone's penny has dropped.

I am surprised anyone was even taken in by the OP.

Flyboy152

WelshBluebird wrote: »

You assume wrong.



So?
You don't need a licence to watch catchup programs or stuff on youtube, so why on earth would the sites have a warning about it?



That is definitely not the case and whoever you were talking to was lying through their teeth.

Or the OP is.

The_Safordian

SEE wrote: »

That is what has happened to me. I use my PC for craft stuff and watching crafting demos on Youtube, I also watch DVDs using my PC, but I have paid for them, why do I need to pay the BBC again? The licence man lied on the form I saw he'd sent to the courts, he wrote on it that I watch TV online, I don't, I don't even have a TV card or whatever you call them and I said he could even check that with my service provider to see what I view online. He was very rude to me and demanded my date of birth and national insurance number. I'm really upset about it all.

If you signed then the scum have you because they falsify the forms afterwards.

spike7451 wrote: »

I had one knock on my door at 8pm ish a few weeks ago (I have a TV licence) & when I told him to !!!!!! off,he resorted to "OK,I'll just phone & get a search warrant"...Still waiting...:p

They always do this, think 30s Germany and you know what we're dealing with.

Anyway the OP wont get any help here, the BBC has its PR people here and other sites like this

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showpost.php?p=59002056&postcount=34

You see it's not just here he shows up to defend the BBC at every single opportunity

maninthestreet

So what 'form' do these TVLA goons ask people to sign when they turn up on their doorstep??

vax2002

BlueAngelCV wrote: »

I'm sorry maybe I'm missing something but where has it been established that the OP signed something admitting to watching TV without a licence?

Basic first day at college legal stuff !
2 parts:
To bring a prosecution and a private one at that, you need to know WHO you are prosecuting.
Part 2: someone has to agree to represent the human at court, this is know as a person, the name on you birth certificate is your person, it is basically your name but in BLOCK CAPITALS, or referred to historically as your straw man.
So without you giving them the name of a person to prosecute and the signing to agree to represent that person in court, to put it the short way, they are stuffed, unless you want a summons issued against "the fat bloke in the white vest who answered the door at number 31...
No name of a PERSON + No agreement to represent that person =No Private prosecution .
End of story.
Hence why ignoring and slamming the door works 100% of the time.

The_Safordian

bazster wrote: »

FOTL woo-woo? Gawd help us, we're heading into la-la land...

I've been without a BBC TV Licence for over 21yrs so the no contact
approach is 100%. I still get the usual threatening, harrasing and intimidating threatograms but thats about it

bazster

The_Safordian wrote: »

I've been without a BBC TV Licence for over 21yrs so the no contact
approach is 100%. I still get the usual threatening, harrasing and intimidating threatograms but thats about it

Personally I prefer to pay for services I use, but I guess that's just because I'm honest.

The_Safordian

bazster wrote: »

Personally I prefer to pay for services I use, but I guess that's just because I'm honest.

So do I, I don't use the propaganda machine known as the BBC though. Call me a democrat if you like comrade but that's me. I'm living in the UK and not North Korea