No iMac refresh at WWDC

Notmyrealname

BlueC wrote: »

Nothing but a minor bump for the Mac Pro either. It's now basically a 3 year old machine and hasn't even got USB 3 or thunderbolt and still has a crap (and now ancient) GPU in the base config.

Its a chuffing laptop, not a games machine. The GPU is more than up to normal use.

Notmyrealname

23n1th wrote: »

Besides which "way out of date hardware" and "over-priced" has been apples business model for years.

Their hardware is not overpriced. I priced up an equivalent spec PC to a 27" iMac. It came to £100 more and didn't have Thunderbolt, I had to use a mid-range motherboard and the display was on sale.

Notmyrealname

edgex wrote: »

if theyve got the same main components, ie. processor, memory, harddrive, then they ARE comparable

No they're not. There's a world of difference in build quality.

Take my Macbook Pro. 30 months old, battery has done 323 cycles and is still at 89% of original capacity. You could buy a Windows laptop with more RAM and a larger hard drive for £350 at the time, one third of the price. However the battery wouldn't have lasted a year and chances are the hinges would be long gone.

You could buy an equivalent build quality Windows laptop - Thinkpad T or X series or Dell Latitude - with a price tag similar to Macbook Pros for a similar spec.

You're trying to do the automotive equivalent of comparing a 1.6L FSO Polonez to a 1.6L Audi. "They've got the same sized engine, four wheels, four doors, boot, bonnet....."

mrochester

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Their hardware is not overpriced. I priced up an equivalent spec PC to a 27" iMac. It came to £100 more and didn't have Thunderbolt, I had to use a mid-range motherboard and the display was on sale.

I can't even find any other AIO that has a 27" screen...

RobTang

mrochester wrote: »

I can't even find any other AIO that has a 27" screen...

Dell makes 2, Lenovo has 1, HP has 1.

As for overpriced parts..... base prices are okish... but the markup for options are extortionate, 2x for ram 3x for ssds over retail.

mrochester

RobTang wrote: »

Dell makes 2, Lenovo has 1, HP has 1.

As for overpriced parts..... base prices are okish... but the markup for options are extortionate, 2x for ram 3x for ssds over retail.

Any ideas where these Dells are? I cant find them on the website!

RobTang

mrochester wrote: »

Any ideas where these Dells are? I cant find them on the website!

Sorry erm Dell as 1, HP has 2 got them mixed up

http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-one-27-2710-aio/pd.aspx

http://h40059.www4.hp.com/uk/homedesktops/product.php?id=H1E46EA&experience=direct

www.hp.com/z1

I just saw asus also makes a 27" aio
http://www.asus.com/Allinone_PCs/27_inch/ET2701IUKI/

mrochester

RobTang wrote: »

Sorry erm Dell as 1, HP has 2 got them mixed up

http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-one-27-2710-aio/pd.aspx

http://h40059.www4.hp.com/uk/homedesktops/product.php?id=H1E46EA&experience=direct

www.hp.com/z1

I just saw asus also makes a 27" aio
http://www.asus.com/Allinone_PCs/27_inch/ET2701IUKI/

It's a pity the Dell is only available in the US and the other two don't match the iMac spec!

tombruton87

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Its a chuffing laptop, not a games machine. The GPU is more than up to normal use.

A mac pro is a desktop, a macbook pro is a laptop!!!!!

the mac pro has become a bit of a joke im not sure if apple are abandoning it or something. I think they are more than likely going to go over almost completely to non pro products. final cut pro X didnt help

Notmyrealname

mrochester wrote: »

It's a pity the Dell is only available in the US and the other two don't match the iMac spec!

The Dell also doesn't have the IPS display.

The Dell U2711 monitor (the same display panel as the 27" iMac) has now dropped to £537 which is about £100 less than when I last did this "build a PC with the same spec as an iMac for less money" test thus making it the same price, albeit the PC is not an AIO.