item accidently sent to wrong address and has been stolen

poppasmurf_bewdley

cocopops21 wrote: »

What about for the fact that royal mail left it out unsafely and someone else was able to break into it and steal the contents?

I'm sick of mail men delivering my parcels (special delivery signed for) to my neighbours (who I don't trust) and leaving them outside my door. I don't even get a sorry you were out card when it goes to my neighbours. Maybe if more cases were filed, mail men would get into more trouble for being careless.

So now the Post Office should not leave parcels at an address unless that address has a safe in which packages can be left? Or a secure room which can only be accessed by the addressee?

What about those houses converted into flats where no consideration is given to security of mail, and it's just left on a table in the hallway?

No doubt, there would be lots of complaints if the Postman took back to the sorting office every item of mail he couldn't leave in a secure location.

cocopops21

Obviously_the_best wrote: »

Shame on you for even suggesting it!!!!!

It's people like you that cause our postal price rises, then no doubt you moan about them!!!

Why on earth should Royal Mail be out of pocket because they delivered a package correctly and on time?

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Whatever, prices will rise every year anyways for various reasons. I don't moan about them at all actually.

Um maybe they should be out of pocket because they obviously didn't deliver it correctly if it was accessible to people ripping it open and stealing the contents.

cocopops21

poppasmurf_bewdley wrote: »

So now the Post Office should not leave parcels at an address unless that address has a safe in which packages can be left? Or a secure room which can only be accessed by the addressee?

What about those houses converted into flats where no consideration is given to security of mail, and it's just left on a table in the hallway?

No doubt, there would be lots of complaints if the Postman took back to the sorting office every item of mail he couldn't leave in a secure location.

Yeah that's exactly flippin right!!!!!!!!!

How is it fair that they leave a parcel somewhere where it can be stolen or taken by someone else.

If it goes to a sorting office, then go bloody pick it up. At least you get your item. What would you rather, have someone steal it and then lose your money and your item?

Would you take something you have that's valuable in your house, wrap it up, and be okay with leaving it on your doorstep for anyone to take? Because that's quite similar and I personally wouldn't.

Man some people on this forum just really jump on you and tear you to shreds if you have a different opinion.

Obviously_the_best

cocopops21 wrote: »

Whatever, prices will rise every year anyways for various reasons. I don't moan about them at all actually.

Um maybe they should be out of pocket because they obviously didn't deliver it correctly if it was accessible to people ripping it open and stealing the contents.

So you're saying that it's Royal Mail's fault for leaving an item unnatended, which they have to do if the person actually goes out to earn a living, rather than the person who stole it.

It's like saying that it was my fault my Garden Bench got stolen, because I didn't bolt it down, rather than the thief's fault for stealing it?

Has society gone mad!!!

P.s. If you were being really picky it's the builder who built the flat's fault for having a communal entrance!!!

P.p.s. And I have never locked my front door in my life, or my back door, and I haven't been burgled yet. The media is messing with everybody's heads

poppasmurf_bewdley

cocopops21 wrote: »

How is it fair that they leave a parcel somewhere where it can be stolen or taken by someone else.

Because most people couldn't give a monkeys and don't make any provision for the Royal Mail to leave packages in a secure place. How many times have I seen a note on a door saying "Please leave all parcels behind dustbin" or something similar?

In case you haven't noticed, Royal Mail do offer a service in which if a package isn't signed for it's not left (whether a secure refuge is available or not) but returned to the sorting office, and if the package mentioned by the OP had been sent that way, then this whole situation would not have arisen. Any package of value should always be sent this way, or you POST IT AT YOUR OWN RISK!

barmonkey

poppasmurf_bewdley wrote: »

In case you haven't noticed, Royal Mail do offer a service in which if a package isn't signed for it's not left (whether a secure refuge is available or not) but returned to the sorting office

trouble is most times it is left anyway and the postman himself signs for it.

cocopops21

Obviously_the_best wrote: »

So you're saying that it's Royal Mail's fault for leaving an item unnatended, which they have to do if the person actually goes out to earn a living, rather than the person who stole it.

It's like saying that it was my fault my Garden Bench got stolen, because I didn't bolt it down, rather than the thief's fault for stealing it?

Has society gone mad!!!

P.s. If you were being really picky it's the builder who built the flat's fault for having a communal entrance!!!

P.p.s. And I have never locked my front door in my life, or my back door, and I haven't been burgled yet. The media is messing with everybody's heads

Well uh yeah it's the mail man's fault for leaving it in an unsafe place, of course!!! My husband and I work 12 hours shifts everyday and we manage to go pick up our parcels at the local depot if need be so what is the problem? What you can't go to your local office to pick up the parcel two days later? I don't understand the issue. They absolutely don't have to leave the parcel somewhere random when the person isn't in. In fact they should take it to the sorting office and that's how it's been no matter where I've lived except where we live now (for less than a year).

Well you placed your garden bench there, not another person who you didn't have control over so it's not the same.

You're lucky you live in nice neighbourhoods where you don't have to keep your doors locked. We tried doing that and got a load of our sh*t stolen. So nope it's not the media just experience.

poppasmurf_bewdley

barmonkey wrote: »

trouble is most times it is left anyway and the postman himself signs for it.

Any Postman that does that deserves to be sacked, and if a postman did that with a package for me, I would report him to the Manager at the local Sorting Office without hesitation.

But I have to say I have never had that happen to me.

cocopops21

barmonkey wrote: »

trouble is most times it is left anyway and the postman himself signs for it.

Yep that's exactly true. I get most of my parcels through special delivery and I send everything through special delivery and random people sign for it all the time which should not be allowed at all!

Obviously_the_best

cocopops21, It's not the postman's fault but the person who stole it. That's what the law says.