Toby Carvery charged sunday prices on a monday

System

Sheldon_Cooper wrote: »

Eh? Any chance of that in English. :rotfl:


TS do not investigate unless there would be, on the evidence presented to them, a case to answer.


Nice try. Voltaire didn't write that. Better luck next time. Not that it makes any difference because the use of old aphorisms is not dependant on their authors foreseeing how they will be used.

1 - If we are going to start criticising peoples English perhaps you can correct this gibberish "The law if clear on this"

2 - TS have only received the evidence from the OP, without a fair investigation, and a chance for the restaurant to respond there is no way of knowing whether they will take the OP's side. It will be interesting to see what the response is

3- It was the OP who referenced the phrase being written by Voltaire

baza52

OP. i bet any money VALI PM'd you not long after their first post in this thread.
You appear to be taking their advice as gospel and disregarding everyone else.

What have TS had to say since they said they MIGHT look into it.

Azari

:rotfl: Goater's off on one! :rotfl:

goater78 wrote: »

1 - If we are going to start criticising peoples English perhaps you can correct this gibberish "The law if clear on this" Anyone with an 'ap'th of sense can see that is a simple one character typo. Your effort, on the other hand really is gibberish - and you still haven't explained it.

2 - TS have only received the evidence from the OP That does not address SC's remark. They would not be investigating if the case as OP described was without merit. The point being that they clearly agree that if what the OP said is correct then Toby are in the wrong.

3- It was the OP who referenced the phrase being written by Voltaire Stop being such a weasel. You stated that he wrote it. Maybe many others did but that doesn't alter the fact that you were wrong. Just man up and accept it.

Azari

StaffsSW wrote: »

The problem with experts on the internet is that they rarely function in real life without the help of google, which seems to have replaced common sense over the last 10 years or so.

Too right.

I studied contract law at university and I would be very doubtful that I would have a usable understanding had we not been taught by and had the opportunity to discuss with, a qualified, legal, professional.

There is a major problem with context when trying to rely on google, when it comes to matters of law.

System

Azari wrote: »

:rotfl: Goater's off on one! :rotfl:

I'm getting confused now as I don't really understand what you are on about. The OP wrote a phrase which he then referenced (in the same post) as being written by Voltaire.

He wrote "It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong.*"

At the bottom of the post he then referenced

*Voltaire.

I don't understand how I can remotely be associated with that!

I realising you have a bitterness towards me because of unrelated threads but there is no real need to start lashing out.

System

I also worry about this belief that just because something is under investigation that must mean they are guilty. After a due process by TS the chances are that the OP will win his case. This however is only based on the evidence the OP has provided.

I do not believe that Trading Standards will be going into this investigation thinking that Toby Carvery are guilty. They will go into it with a valid complaint from the OP and investigate the case. They will then report back to the OP. Who will then hopefully update people on here with what happened. I am literally on the edge of my seat with the anticipation!

Azari

goater78 wrote: »

I also worry about this belief that just because something is under investigation that must mean they are guilty.

Straw man argument!

No one said that.

The point is that despite a collection of people making absurd assertions that the OP is the one in error for not reading this and that, TS have agreed that if the facts presented by OP are as stated, then Toby have a case to answer. In other words, if they are relying on their customers assuming that whilst they say one thing they mean something else, they may be in breach os certain statutory instruments

That is not remotely the same as saying they must be guilty.

Clear now?

I do not believe that Trading Standards will be going into this investigation thinking that Toby Carvery are guilty.

Of course they won't.

Again, straw man, because no one said they would.

System

Azari wrote: »

Straw man argument!

No one said that.

The point is that despite a collection of people making absurd assertions that the OP is the one in error for not reading this and that, TS have agreed that if the facts presented by OP are as stated, then Toby have a case to answer. In other words, if they are relying on their customers assuming that whilst they say one thing they mean something else, they may be in breach os certain statutory instruments

That is not remotely the same as saying they must be guilty.

Clear now?



Of course they won't.

Again, straw man, because no one said they would.

I wasn't confused about this. I was confused about all this references to Voltaire that I was being associated with! I assume you just misread the OP's post and realised I was right. You are just too embarrassed to admit your error and ill thought out support of Sheldon

The OP has a strong case and i've at no point stated that I think he is in the wrong. In my few responses to this thread I have said I believe he should be refunded the difference between the two prices.

You just want to start an argument for the sake of it. However it is far too sunny a day to do that!

NBLondon

MarkLS12 wrote: »

For any bank holiday, the default position is to expect service in shops and restaurants to be the "same as Sunday" unless otherwise stated.
It's not a weekday.

As I said before - the level of service, hours of opening, availability of products maybe but price???

I can't think of anywhere I've seen any food business advertise Price X all week and Higher Price Y on Sunday (and Bank Holiday). More likely to be Price X all week but Lower Price Z on a slow day like Tuesday.

A limited Sunday menu because of fewer staff makes sense to me and carrying that through to a BH is understandable.

Hotels have different rates midweek because of differing demand but again it's usually pitched as standard price and reduced price on slow days.

Is there so much demand for carvery on Sundays that Toby charge more for the same food and can get away with it? What other restaurant does this?

System

NBLondon wrote: »

As I said before - the level of service, hours of opening, availability of products maybe but price???

I can't think of anywhere I've seen any food business advertise Price X all week and Higher Price Y on Sunday (and Bank Holiday). More likely to be Price X all week but Lower Price Z on a slow day like Tuesday.

A limited Sunday menu because of fewer staff makes sense to me and carrying that through to a BH is understandable.

Hotels have different rates midweek because of differing demand but again it's usually pitched as standard price and reduced price on slow days.

Is there so much demand for carvery on Sundays that Toby charge more for the same food and can get away with it? What other restaurant does this?

Sunday is the traditional "Sunday Roast Day". So I imagine they are busier on a Sunday which is why they are more expensive. I'm not certain as i've only ever been to 1 of these places (and that was ten year ago), but I believe there is more choice of meats on a Sunday? Maybe a better vegetable selection?

I'm not 100% sure.