Angry..do you see this as ok?

JimmyTheWig

Gingham_R wrote: »

Just to check - we're censoring what is in people's minds too? I'll stand in anyone's corner but expecting people not to have an imagination is quite an extreme step along this spectrum.

No, not what's in their minds. It's what they do with those thoughts in their minds.
I'm saying that watching a program simply because you fancy someone in it and want to masturbate isn't appropriate if you are in a relationship.

tea_lover

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

No, not what's in their minds. It's what they do with those thoughts in their minds.
I'm saying that watching a program simply because you fancy someone in it and want to masturbate isn't appropriate if you are in a relationship.

Wow. By that measure I seriously need to cut out some of my essential viewing!

Gavin83

Gingham_R wrote: »

1) she may or may not be enjoying it
2) she may or may not have been coerced or forced into it
3) she is not acting like she's having sex - she IS having sex

I wouldn't expect the woman to enjoy it all the time. It's their job, I don't always like doing my job. I don't see why this should be any different just because they work in the sex industry. If they hate their job that much do what anyone else should do, quit.

I accept that some people are most likely forced into it but this will be the absolute minority. Certainly the mainstream American !!!!!! you see is consensual.

green1970 wrote: »

Who would be okay with their daughter making amateur movies and putting them out their as a personal service to the nation's masturbation needs?

Probably no one. However why should we base our decisions on what our parents would want? If the girl is choosing to do it I don't see why her parents should feature in this.

Gingham_R

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

No, not what's in their minds. It's what they do with those thoughts in their minds.
I'm saying that watching a program simply because you fancy someone in it and want to masturbate isn't appropriate if you are in a relationship.

As with the use of !!!!!!, having sex with other people or any other activity, that depends on the couple. But what goes on in a person's mind isn't somewhere I think is reasonable for ANYONE to go in my opinion. I'd be a bit worried about someone who constantly imagined they were with someone they knew when they were having sex with their partner, but otherwise, I'd encourage the thought police to stay out of people's bedrooms!

JimmyTheWig

Oh, I'm certainly not saying that should be everyone's rule.
Obviously in a relationship where individual !!!!!! is acceptable then watching someone on TV simply because you fancy them and want to relieve yourself would be acceptable.
But in a relationship where !!!!!! isn't acceptable (discounting reasons like boycotting the !!!!!! inductry for ethical purposes) I don't see choosing to get your kicks by watching someone on a non-!!!!!! program is acceptable either.

Gingham_R

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

I don't see choosing to get your kicks by watching someone on a non-!!!!!! program is acceptable either.

I don't understand what you mean. Do you mean putting an ordinary tv programme on to 'relieve him/herself' (do people do this?) or do you mean watching something with someone they are sexually attracted to in it then thinking about them afterwards?

I think the first one is surprising as it never crossed my mind that people would do that and the second is baffling too because it seems so unlikely that someone would be able to completely wipe their mind of the thought of anyone but their partner and even if they could, I don't understand why they would be expected to.

JimmyTheWig

Gingham_R wrote: »

I don't understand what you mean. Do you mean putting an ordinary tv programme on to 'relieve him/herself' (do people do this?) or do you mean watching something with someone they are sexually attracted to in it then thinking about them afterwards?

I think the first one is surprising as it never crossed my mind that people would do that and the second is baffling too because it seems so unlikely that someone would be able to completely wipe their mind of the thought of anyone but their partner and even if they could, I don't understand why they would be expected to.

It's the first one. I agree that the second would be an unreasonable request. And I agree that the first is a contrived scenario.
It came from Lotus-eater's post #213 which was in response to my response (#204) to MeganKate's post #181 (which, as it happens, was in response to you!).

The question was if pornography is a no-no in a relationship then what about looking at attractive (semi-naked) strangers? My point was that deciding to watch pornography was more akin to deliberately going where there would be attractive (semi-naked) strangers.
Which brought up the question of regular TV programs. My point is that watching !!!!!! isn't like watching someone on TV who happens to be attractive. It's more like specifically deciding to watch a particular program because there's someone in it who you want to whack off to.

I'm not convinced that anyone (over the age of 14) would actually do this, but to me if they did it wouldn't be right in a relationship.

Lotus-eater

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

No, not what's in their minds. It's what they do with those thoughts in their minds.
I'm saying that watching a program simply because you fancy someone in it and want to masturbate isn't appropriate if you are in a relationship.

Crikey! I love watching Modern Family mainly because of that bird in it, I haven't wanted to masturbate over her yet*, but I suppose it's a possibility.

Wasn't/isn't Baywatch the most popular program in the world, doubt if it broke up many marriages, but it probably improved a few sex lives


* Obviously there is masturbating "over" her and masturbating "thinking" about her.............. would masturbating over her also be classed as being unfaithful, as long as no bodily contact occurred? just asking :A

MeganKate

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

Just to make it clear that MeganKate was the person to bring up topless beaches not me.

Er, no I wasnt !!! I didnt mention topless beaches you did !!!

JimmyTheWig

MeganKate wrote: »

Er, no I wasnt !!! I didnt mention topless beaches you did !!!

I believe the first mention in the thread was this one...

MeganKate wrote: »

How far does it go? would he be allowed to look at an attractive woman walking past? what about an attractive woman wearing a short skirt ? or god forbid topless on a beach!!!! :eek: