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MSE News: Half a million could lose disability benefits

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  • Ellejmorgan
    Ellejmorgan Posts: 1,487 Forumite
    sangio wrote: »
    Don't make me laugh.

    What makes us in GB more likely to suffer 'illness' resulting in 'disability with needs' than any other country?

    Answer: Because we have a too generous welfare system where it is easier to sponge than to work.
    And I will include myself in that!!!! Getting more in welfare payments now than I was bringing home whilst working full time on £22,000 a year!



    I wouldn't know i'm not a sponger..i'm ill
    I always take the moral high ground, it's lovely up here...
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    Unfortunately, many are clueless as to what exactly forms the basis of a DLA claim, or how extremely difficult it is to claim. And far too many people make far too many erroneous assumptions about those who are in receipt of it, often getting it so badly wrong!
    On please people do claim on the basis of the above. They have severe depression that means they can't cook for themselves (amongst other similar things) they score points even if they have a partner who can cook for them (and make pack lunches if they work). this inability to cook for one self is explained by the depression. If a student tried to claim because he also never cooks because he can't be bothered and tried to save any penny resulting in him getting a very poor diet would he really score any points for DLA? I doubt it so yes of course the condition has an impact on the decision.
  • Ellejmorgan
    Ellejmorgan Posts: 1,487 Forumite
    sangio wrote: »
    So am I! But I'm a sponger as well!!! I use the welfare system and all of its wierd quirks to make sure that I have an income that I can live off.


    Doesn't mean everyone does, I don't get what I'm fully entitled to and i'm sure there are others that don't either..

    Weird quirks you are on another planet...
    I always take the moral high ground, it's lovely up here...
  • clemmatis
    clemmatis Posts: 3,168 Forumite
    BigAunty wrote: »
    I've read that the UK has one of the highest proportion of working age people on sickness/disability benefits in the developed world.

    Is this actually the case and what is the cause of this?

    I found an OECD report that says it isn't the case.
  • ~Chameleon~
    ~Chameleon~ Posts: 11,956 Forumite
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    FBaby wrote: »
    On please people do claim on the basis of the above. They have severe depression that means they can't cook for themselves (amongst other similar things) they score points even if they have a partner who can cook for them (and make pack lunches if they work). this inability to cook for one self is explained by the depression. If a student tried to claim because he also never cooks because he can't be bothered and tried to save any penny resulting in him getting a very poor diet would he really score any points for DLA? I doubt it so yes of course the condition has an impact on the decision.

    Do you honestly think you can claim DLA on the singular basis of not being able to cook a meal?! You are sadly delusional :rotfl:
    “You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”
  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    You have PND and high blood pressure hardly as bad as losing a leg or other major surgery is it..

    It's worth bearing in mind that some forms of depression are more lethal than some cancers.

    In that fewer will survive 5 years.
  • There was a rather heated debate on the government scrapping DLA on the Stephen Nolan show on BBC one Northern Ireland - worth watching, please tell me your thoughts - http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01hr7zy/The_Nolan_Show_Episode_4/

    Please go to 47.25.
  • juliep123
    juliep123 Posts: 53 Forumite
    I've just been medically retired from DWP at the age of 44 .I've had RA for 9 years but over the last 6 months it has got much worse and i'm now pretty imobile.
    I've worked since i was 18 and would be entitled to ESA conts but i've decided not to claim.The attitude of some people to those who claim benefit is horrendous (including members of my own family).For the benefit of all genuine claimants the fraudulent claims must be weeded out and proper sanctions should be imposed on these fraudsters.
    I'm very lucky as my OH is able to support us both - a lot of people aren't so lucky.
    Jules
  • cit_k
    cit_k Posts: 24,812 Forumite
    sangio wrote: »
    It's called 'hypothetical needs', 'perceived symptoms that make any work impossible' and of course, something that the British are good at - 'scivingitis'.

    You can guarantee that if they did away with all aspects of welfare support, most would find a way of supporting themselves and their families. For those that can't then a new support system can be brought in geared to handing out vouchers to be exchanged for a a roof over their head, some food in their belly and clothes on their backs.


    Do 4chan have an ad in the window for trolls to visit mse or something?
    [greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
    [/greenhighlight][redtitle]
    The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
    and we should be deeply worried about that
    [/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)
  • Ellejmorgan
    Ellejmorgan Posts: 1,487 Forumite
    juliep123 wrote: »
    I've just been medically retired from DWP at the age of 44 .I've had RA for 9 years but over the last 6 months it has got much worse and i'm now pretty imobile.
    I've worked since i was 18 and would be entitled to ESA conts but i've decided not to claim.The attitude of some people to those who claim benefit is horrendous (including members of my own family).For the benefit of all genuine claimants the fraudulent claims must be weeded out and proper sanctions should be imposed on these fraudsters.
    I'm very lucky as my OH is able to support us both - a lot of people aren't so lucky.
    Jules


    Sorry you have RA, I have just A in my lower back but it's not too bad sounds like it's bad if imobile..I do hope you get DLA...

    Even some people who claim have this attitude would you believe....
    I always take the moral high ground, it's lovely up here...
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