parkingeye letter

lawabidingcitizen1

ManxRed wrote: »

In the same way that I would agree to underwrite anyone not taking advantage of an email offering to pay $25,000,000 from a dead African diplomat into your bank account?

When you say bailiff and court costs WILL be added, how certain are you that the PPC would be able to win a case in a small claims court when many PPCs regularly lose such cases?

Even Martin Lewis accepts that PPCs have won cases they have taken to court. It appears there is no certainty on court judgements and so I would advise the poster with the ticket today to today to err on the side of caution. That is unless you are willing to remove that certainty by gauranteeing to fund the losses?

lawabidingcitizen1

ManxRed wrote: »

In the same way that I would agree to underwrite anyone not taking advantage of an email offering to pay $25,000,000 from a dead African diplomat into your bank account?

When you say bailiff and court costs WILL be added, how certain are you that the PPC would be able to win a case in a small claims court when many PPCs regularly lose such cases?

I have not heard of email scammers ever taking anyone to court. That is because scammers are exactly what they are! However, I have read on this site about one court case where the parker ended up paying in excess of £2500 in total after losing the court case.

lawabidingcitizen1

AltheHibby wrote: »

Lawabiding, which PPC do you work for?

The posts at #16 and #18 can be safely ignored as they are obviously the work of a PPC troll, and they have been reportd as spam.

Edit: Told you so, only I didn't know Kev and Manx were already posting.

Did you not read the notice?

'MSE requests that you give new posters a chance. Please be especially nice'

vax2002

By my calculations, over 260,000 PPC tickets are issued a year, the scam has been running for around 7 years now.
Thats 18 million PPC tickets
the number of cases won where a defence was provided we know about is 18
So you have exactly 1 in a million chance of a ppc winning a case against you that is correctly defended.
At those odds, you would be a fool not to keep your £60 stake money.

ManxRed

lawabidingcitizen1 wrote: »

Even Martin Lewis accepts that PPCs have won cases they have taken to court. It appears there is no certainty on court judgements and so I would advise the poster with the ticket today to today to err on the side of caution. That is unless you are willing to remove that certainty by gauranteeing to fund the losses?

Of the handful of cases that they have won, there have been instances of poor defences, relations of the PPC owners, and so on involved. Most PPC wins are actually defaults. Most PPC cases result in losses.

If the PPC cases were as strong as you make out, how come they don't pursue EVERY case? 99.99% of them are simply dropped after the letter chains.

lawabidingcitizen1

vax2002 wrote: »

By my calculations, over 260,000 PPC tickets are issued a year, the scam has been running for around 7 years now.
Thats 18 million PPC tickets
the number of cases won where a defence was provided we know about is 18
So you have exactly 1 in a million chance of a ppc winning a case against you that is correctly defended.
At those odds, you would be a fool not to keep your £60 stake money.

260,000x7 is 1.82m by my calculations. I hope you don't offer financial adivse for a living?

ManxRed

So a 1 in 100,000 chance instead then?

You're right. That makes ALL the difference!

Half_way

Lawabidingcitizen raises a few legitamate concerns that deserve a good reply, more later...

lawabidingcitizen1

ManxRed wrote: »

So a 1 in 100,000 chance instead then?

You're right. That makes ALL the difference!

So on that basis you are willing to underwrite then?

ManxRed

On that basis I am advising that the odds on losing a court case against a PPC means that the sensible advice is to ignore the ticket.

You're still avoiding my questions, I am being polite enough to answer yours.