9 points , a speed awareness course ..now a fine

e999sam

Lum wrote: »

So you'd willingly accept that you'd been driving dangerously for the last however long you'd lived there?

If so, why didn't you notice before?


or alternatively, what if there was no risk assessment, and it was just to appease a couple of NIMBYs down the road?

Why do you assume that I would be doing 30 in your hypothetical scenario, remember 30 is a limit not a target.

pendulum

e999sam wrote: »

Clearly if they are speeding they are not driving safely.

You twit!
*double facepalm*

Harry_Flashman

e999sam wrote: »

Why do you assume that I would be doing 30 in your hypothetical scenario, remember 30 is a limit not a target.

Maybe not a target, but it should be viewed as an easily achievable speed under normal conditions.

e999sam

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

Maybe not a target, but it should be viewed as an easily achievable speed under normal conditions.

So do you believe that you should always be able to attain the speed limit under normal conditions?

real1314

e999sam wrote: »

Why do you assume that I would be doing 30 in your hypothetical scenario, remember 30 is a limit not a target.

If you'd travelled at 20mph throughout a driving test, on 30mph limit roads, in good conditions, with clear traffic and visibility; you'd likely fail your driving test; unable to control vehicle at appropriate speed.

In traffic flowing at 27-28mph with appropriate stopping distances; you'd fail again - failed to maintain traffic flow.


You fail to grasp the point that some speed is entirely necessary to deliver the social and economic benefits of motor travel that are essential in society. :cool:

Harry_Flashman

e999sam wrote: »

So do you believe that you should always be able to attain the speed limit under normal conditions?

As a sweeping generalisation, yes

e999sam

real1314 wrote: »

If you'd travelled at 20mph throughout a driving test, on 30mph limit roads, in good conditions, with clear traffic and visibility; you'd likely fail your driving test; unable to control vehicle at appropriate speed.

. :cool:

I didn't say I would do that.

e999sam

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

As a sweeping generalisation, yes

So would you do 30mph outside a school while the kids were coming out or 60mph on a single track country lane round a blind bend?

Harry_Flashman

e999sam wrote: »

So would you do 30mph outside a school while the kids were coming out or 60mph on a single track country lane round a blind bend?

Highly unlikely but did you miss what I said about a sweeping generalisation?

e999sam

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

Highly unlikely but did you miss what I said about a sweeping generalisation?

Because you said it was a "sweeping generalisation" I had to ask because you didn't really answer the question.
So now you have answered the question do you agree in Lum's hypothetical scenario that I could have been correct in never exceeding 20mph because of the nature of the road even under normal conditions.