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Orchid V4, V4+ and Ranger 400 phone users - Discussion

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  • de_sales2
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    mbailey wrote: »
    It all depends on how many day time calls you make. Obviously if you are at home during the day, and make more than 5 calls per day then the BT anytime deal works best. As you say if you factor in the 0870 and 0845 then it can make a difference, but again it depends how many of these numbers you call.

    For me the 18185 and primus bill is always less than £4.85, so no advantage for me swapping to the anytime service........

    Thank you. That was the assurance I was looking for, and how beautifully clearly you have given it.
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
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    KevinLawry wrote: »
    To be fair to Heinz he has never claimed that his plan would be ultra finely tuned to any given persons exact needs, it is/was a very good set of choices that would fit the broadest section of the market.
    Actually, at the start in early 2007, Toby at Orchid suggested multiple programs (e.g. one for users of Sky Talk Unlimited) but quickly agreed on a 'one size fits most' solution when I told him how many different versions were likely to be needed.

    Bearing in mind this was at the time when BT didn't offer free evening calls for no monthly charge and the Primus Saver Option 2 CPS offering was unique, accommodating those who made few weekday daytime calls (because they were out at work) seemed the priority.

    Times change and available alternatives (e.g. BT's Evening & Weekend Plan) offer choices. In fact, even the 'out at work' part of that original equation may, unfortunately, not now apply quite so universally.

    Anyway, in years to come, mine's a scattering to the waves on my favourite beach and no worries about abstract locations!
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • de_sales2
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    1. Heinz wrote: »
      ... and no worries about abstract locations!
    If I've understood you correctly I suspect you may have a rather wonderful surprise in store.
  • obvious
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  • de_sales2
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    mbailey wrote: »
    ...... The other reason for changing was that I was finding we make quite a few short mobile calls, and with those, the primus deal doesn't work out that good. For long mobile calls it is excellent as it is fixed price, but not for short calls.

    So now I use 18185 for all mobile calls, foreign calls and daytime calls, and then BT Evening and Weekends for free calls.

    If only BT didn't rip you off with mobile calls and foreign calls, I wouldn't need 18185 at all. Some how, I can't see that changing though, so I'll stick with my Orchid dialler and 18185.

    For those for whom it makes sense to return to a BT plan supplemented with 18185 for mobile and foreign calls (yet who are daunted by the prospect of keeping a dialler up to date using their handset or Kevin's really simple to use spreadsheet) an alternative solution would be a handset which allows numbers to be summoned from memory 'in series'. (In the nineties I had a Panasonic that allowed a number recorded in one of 10 'speed dial' memories to be followed by (rather than be wiped out by) a number summoned from a normal memory.)

    Put 18185 into a speed dial memory and manual implementation of the 18185 routing would be sufficiently painless to largely obviate the need for a dialler.

    Does anyone know of a currently available handset that allows one to build up a number out of the contents of more than one memory?
  • One thing to bear in mind with the BT Anytime call package is that it is limited to 1000 minutes and/or 150 calls per month (i.e. approximately 5 per day), anything over that is charged at BT's normal rates.
  • INSPIRED
    INSPIRED Posts: 197 Forumite
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    Our V4 phone has lost the programme due to a power cut.

    Please could someone point me to the instructions?

    Will I have to do a complete reset before programming?

    Thank you!
  • Heinz
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    edited 14 April 2009 at 12:37PM
    INSPIRED wrote: »
    Our V4 phone has lost the programme due to a power cut.
    It will not have lost its program due to a power cut. A V4 (as opposed to a V4+) only gets power from the telephone line.

    As such, unless you've unplugged it from the telephone socket, it should be fine (and, even if you have, it will only have lost it's time/day/date settings - which are easily reset manually).

    OTOH, if you mean a Ranger 400 DECT, the power cut will have caused the built-in V4 to lose its time/day/date settings.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=1830574&postcount=2
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
  • INSPIRED
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    Heinz wrote: »
    It will not have lost its program due to a power cut. A V4 (as opposed to a V4+) only gets power from the telephone line.

    As such, unless you've unplugged it from the telephone socket, it should be fine (and, even if you have, it will only have lost it's time/day/date settings - which are easily reset manually).

    OTOH, if you mean a Ranger 400 DECT, the power cut will have caused the built-in V4 to lose its time/day/date settings.

    Oh Heinz - so pleased you are there!

    We are not hearing the message as each call goes out i.e. "zero pence per minute" so presume that the programme has gone. Is this not correct?
  • Heinz
    Heinz Posts: 11,191 Forumite
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    INSPIRED wrote: »
    We are not hearing the message as each call goes out i.e. "zero pence per minute" so presume that the programme has gone. Is this not correct?
    No, that probably just means the time/day/date settings have been lost.

    Use the method shown HERE to reset those.
    Time has moved on (much quicker than it used to - or so it seems at my age) and my previous advice on residential telephony has been or is now gradually being overtaken by changes in the retail market. Hence, I have now deleted links to my previous 'pearls of wisdom'. I sincerely hope they helped save some of you money.
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