Discipline at school

daisiegg

welshsue wrote: »

well yes if it has injured his shoulder.....

As someone else has said, a healthy teenager shouldn't be injured or in agony from having hands on head even for 20 minutes. You should get him to a doctor as there must be an underlying condition.

Taadaa

I would speak to the school about it if l were in your position. No doubt there is a reason for it, but it seems a very strange form of discipline for a high school. I could understand it more for a class of tots. I think l would like to know more about the s hools policy on discipline generally. I agree though, he probably hasn't told you the whole story and may be exaggerating the pain.

VfM4meplse

Taadaa wrote: »

it seems a very strange form of discipline for a high school.

Not if they were being searched for knives at the time .

daisiegg

Taadaa wrote: »

I would speak to the school about it if l were in your position. No doubt there is a reason for it, but it seems a very strange form of discipline for a high school. I could understand it more for a class of tots. I think l would like to know more about the s hools policy on discipline generally. I agree though, he probably hasn't told you the whole story and may be exaggerating the pain.

Ergh, really? If this happened more than once or it was a regular teacher using it as a standard form of discipline, by all means contact the school. But if it was a one-off with a supply teacher, surely you'd let it go and just keep an eye on the situation in future? I agree it's an unconventional form of discipline and not one I'd dream of using but it's not THAT terrible, and I doubt anything more than his pride has been injured...what would you expect the school to say/do if you spoke to them about it? It has happened, do you want them to never employ that supply teacher again? Was just reading a post on another board by a teacher who can't find a job and can't even get supply work as schools can't afford proper supply anymore. This teacher probably had a horrendous day and got to the end of his/her tether and did the only thing s/he could think of to get them to be quiet and stop messing around (I'm guessing they were throwing things/play fighting etc, as the reason for the hands on head rather than just making them stand in silence). A few kids are probably feeling rather indignant but no real harm is done? Why would you contact the school?

Abbafan1972

shop-to-drop wrote: »

You're not going to complain about that are you?

Here's something that might help!

CH27

welshsue wrote: »

Are teachers still allowed to make children stand with their hands on their head?.

My eldest has just come home from high school and the whole class were made to do this today for 20mins. He is in agony now with his shoulder.

Just some advice please before I go to the school. This was a supply teacher.

Thanks

Well he won't do anything wrong in that teacher's class again will he?:rotfl:

I cannot believe you are going to complain.

the_cat

welshsue wrote: »

Just some advice please before I go to the school.

My advice is simple. Don't go to the school.

1. You will quite rightly be laughed at
2. So will your son
3. The '20 minutes' was most likely 5
4. The 'agony' is either overstated or due to an underlying medical reason - no healthy teen could hurt themselves like that:rotfl::rotfl:
5. They were being punished for wrong doing. Which any sane parent would support

But thanks for your post. It made me laugh:D

Amanda65

Who'd be a teacher eh?

DCodd

We don't know the facts and the reasons behind the punishement but this course of action in itself is not really an issue. However I doubt it happened as your son has said. If the class was misbehaving then I would suggest that a supply teacher wouldn't be able to make the whole class stand for 20 mins with their hands on their heads as this supply teacher must have lost control of the class, for the entire class to have been involved to that degree. It could be that the class were playing up and being noisy and another member of staff intervened.

I also think that standing with your hands on your head is a strange punishment for secondary school kids.

shop-to-drop

I think the answer here and in general is more discipline not less.

I have teenage boys and school discipline is often ineffective with them for instance I dispair that my eldest who is really lazy often chooses not to do a piece of homework as he thinks a detention will be the easier option. In fact that is the case tonight he was in detention for not doing a piece of latin homework that was too much effort. If he's in detention he relys on us picking him up as he misses the school bus. So tonight he has to wait for his father to finish work before being picked up and it is tipping down with rain. So may be a little more punishment than he was bargaining for!