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Discipline at school

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  • mountainofdebt
    mountainofdebt Posts: 7,795 Forumite
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    We were never sure whether he missed on purpose or because his aim was bad.

    Mind you this was in the days when pupils stood up every time a teacher walked into the room (and this was in a comprehensive school) and woe betide anyone who didn't stand up.
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  • RuthnJasper
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    aliasojo wrote: »
    I'd have had a fit at that one.

    That's a different situation entirely to making kids sit with their hands on their heads.

    I think each and every parent in this world ought to read "It's Your Time You're Wasting" by teacher Frank Chalk ( http://frankchalk.blogspot.co.uk/ ) - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Its-Your-Time-Youre-Wasting/dp/0955285402/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1335382598&sr=8-3.
  • duchy
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    edited 25 April 2012 at 8:45PM
    So you believe that a teacher decided to get an entire class to sit with their hands on their heads for 20 minutes -just because she felt like it. And the kids did NOTHING to warrent the supply teacher stopping the work of an entire class .

    I think your son is running rings around you if he's got you believing nonsense like that :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: Mummy I'm in agooooony !!! Oh please !!! Either he has big fitness problems -or he's trying it on so maybe you should take him to the doctor or forbid all outdoor activities (football, going out with his mates, etc) until he's fully recovered. I suspect you'd find if you suggested either of those he might suddenly stage an amazing recovery-and if he doesn't then he probably needs to do one or the other.

    By all means complain to the school but be prepared for them to tell you a few facts about how your child and the rest of his class really behaves in school with non regular teachers (or even at other times).

    I've worked in a high school -Supply teachers have it rough-the kids think because they don't know their names they can play them up bigtime. I've walked into near riots a couple of times -bawled the kids out and got them sitting down........ and THEN realized there is a supply teacher sitting there. Both time I apologized (as a TA I technically should have left it to the teacher) but in both cases they thanked me profusely.

    Another time I was asked by a head of department to go into a class because "the kids are running rings around the supply teacher" and they were. Tiny little Indian lady of less than 5 foot and the little charmers were making racist remarks, playing football and generally showing themselves up.Not for long they weren't !!:p
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  • moomoomama27
    moomoomama27 Posts: 3,823 Forumite
    edited 25 April 2012 at 9:23PM
    Firstly I would doubt it would be 20 minutes, secondly I can almost with certainty say it wouldn't be for nothing!

    My little darling likes to tell me porky pies about her teachers and their discapline methods, after 15 years of parenting and working in many schools I take it with a Biffa bin of salt ;)

    If you feel you have to say something then be sure of the full story! If it was a 5 minute hand on the head then I would leave it.

    Unless I felt the teacher were either a) putting my child in danger or b) abusing them in some way I would let them get on with whatever 'punsihment' they saw fit!
  • StudioBeau
    StudioBeau Posts: 58 Forumite
    I'm sorry, but this is mad, let alone 5 minutes, this was probably 2. I remember the whoppers I used to tell my mum about what teachers did - 'she screamed right in my face' was actually 'she spoke to me in a normal voice but just sat down near me to do so'. - 'they made us keep running until we collapsed' was actually 'they made me do 400m'.

    Kids lie. Yes, every parent wants to believe their child would never lie to them, but you are the person your kid will lie to the most.
  • daisiegg
    daisiegg Posts: 5,395 Forumite

    Mind you this was in the days when pupils stood up every time a teacher walked into the room (and this was in a comprehensive school) and woe betide anyone who didn't stand up.

    Quite a few schools still do this. I did at school, and the school I went to still does (I know because my brother only left it last year). One of the schools I did my PGCE in did it. I think it's a really good rule to have in place but can imagine the looks on the faces of the girls at my school if they tried to introduce it!
  • claire16c
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    Wow. No wonder kids play up to teachers when their own parents are willing to believe stuff like this!
  • moomoomama27
    moomoomama27 Posts: 3,823 Forumite
    claire16c wrote: »
    Wow. No wonder kids play up to teachers when their own parents are willing to believe stuff like this!

    I feel sorry for teachers, because there are alot of parents who just cannot accept their kids can cause trouble at school!

    I had a phone call the other day about my DD bad behaviour in class. She was lippy to the teacher (who she clashes with) and thought I'd back her up out of the detention....... WRONG! The teacher actually told me how refreshing it was a parent being on side! I was shocked at that!
  • JC9297
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    aliasojo wrote: »
    I'd have had a fit at that one.

    That's a different situation entirely to making kids sit with their hands on their heads.

    Whilst not an everyday thing, I remember teachers often threw things like chalk or board rubbers at pupils if they weren't paying attention, it wouldn't even have occurred to me to tell my parents.
  • My son had detention the other night. I told him that if he didn't want it, he should have completed his homework and to learn a lesson from it. (I wasn't aware that he hadn't done his homework - it wasn't written in his planner and he told me he didn't have any more homework - big mistake!)

    I have volunteered in a school both before and during my degree. Parents should support the teachers and other staff - they have a hard enough job as it is, without being undermined by parents and pupils.

    OP, get the full story first. I would take your son's story with a pinch of salt. Whilst there may be an element of truth, it is highly unlikely that the whole class was made to stand with their hands on their head for twenty minutes, for no reason.
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