Discipline at school

POPPYOSCAR

Taadaa wrote: »

Don't make ridiculous assumptions about me based on my response to one situation. I happen to think kids do need discipline - appropriate discipline.

I agree with you.

On the one occasion that my son misbehaved at school and as a 'punishment' was made to sit out of class ,he and his friends thought it was 'cool'. He laughed when he told us about it.

He did not think it so 'cool' though when we would not let him go out with his friends to play tennis as pre-arranged on a day off two days later!!

Needless to say he did not do it again.

Taadaa

Exactly. The chances are if this supply teacher encounters this class again they are going to play up even more. I think most intelligent people realise their kids are not angels and they do tell fibs when they have done something wrong. But that doesn't mean the teachers always get it right either, and we should feel able to question that as parents if we see fit.

duchy

daisiegg wrote: »

Quite a few schools still do this. I did at school, and the school I went to still does (I know because my brother only left it last year). One of the schools I did my PGCE in did it. I think it's a really good rule to have in place but can imagine the looks on the faces of the girls at my school if they tried to introduce it!

A couple of years ago I did some exam invigilation for GCSEs at a local high school (we have grammer schools here-this isn't a grammer) and I was gobsmacked to be addressed as Ma'am by the kids. At this school all the kids if not using the adult in the school's name eg Mr Smith Ms Jones (any adult working in the school not just teachers) call the men Sir and the women Ma'am.
Took a bit of getting used it but I soon realised why not-it's certainly an improvement on "Miss" that most kids use

daisiegg

duchy wrote: »

A couple of years ago I did some exam invigilation for GCSEs at a local high school (we have grammer schools here-this isn't a grammer) and I was gobsmacked to be addressed as Ma'am by the kids. At this school all the kids if not using the adult in the school's name eg Mr Smith Ms Jones (any adult working in the school not just teachers) call the men Sir and the women Ma'am.
Took a bit of getting used it but I soon realised why not-it's certainly an improvement on "Miss" that most kids use

Oh yes! At my school they call the men Sir but the women Miss. But with it being a girls' school, they have strange attitudes towards male teachers anyway (even the least attractive men are treated like gods and fawned over). You've reminded me of when I did a term of work experience (i.e. unpaid teaching) in another local school prior to doing my PGCE, and they called me Ma'am. I actually didn't like it and it felt bizarre, particularly as I was a very young-looking 21 year old and some of the pupils calling me Ma'am were 18 and looked older than me! However I wonder if it's a coincidence that this school is consistently one of the top schools in the country (and was THE top for a number of years running).

duchy

Taadaa wrote: »

Exactly. The chances are if this supply teacher encounters this class again they are going to play up even more. I think most intelligent people realise their kids are not angels and they do tell fibs when they have done something wrong. But that doesn't mean the teachers always get it right either, and we should feel able to question that as parents if we see fit.

Funny
I see it the completely opposite outcome.
If this class gets this supply teacher again they won't want to have to sit with their hands on their heads again......so will behave. Kids aren't stupid after all.

duchy

daisiegg wrote: »

Oh yes! At my school they call the men Sir but the women Miss. But with it being a girls' school, they have strange attitudes towards male teachers anyway (even the least attractive men are treated like gods and fawned over). You've reminded me of when I did a term of work experience (i.e. unpaid teaching) in another local school prior to doing my PGCE, and they called me Ma'am. I actually didn't like it and it felt bizarre, particularly as I was a very young-looking 21 year old and some of the pupils calling me Ma'am were 18 and looked older than me! However I wonder if it's a coincidence that this school is consistently one of the top schools in the country (and was THE top for a number of years running).

The school I was talking about gets excellent results too -particually impressive as all the "smart" kids get creamed off to the grammer schools so these kids are not the most academic ones to start with. Weirdly my son's (private) school -in the same area -called teachers by their first names.

pimento

Taadaa wrote: »

Don't make ridiculous assumptions about me based on my response to one situation. I happen to think kids do need discipline - appropriate discipline.

But you don't mind undermining the teachers in front of your child.

POPPYOSCAR

pimento wrote: »

But you don't mind undermining the teachers in front of your child.

I have just looked back but I can not find the post where Taadaa states she/he would do this.

Taadaa

pimento wrote: »

But you don't mind undermining the teachers in front of your child.

I can't find a confused face smiley so you will have to take my word for it that I have a confused face right now. Errr you do realise that I am not the original poster? I did not say I would make a big song and dance and rage in front of my child about how awful all teachers are and how my precious child is always right and never tells lies.

At no point have I said that I would do such a thing. I said I would want to hear the other side of the story. Perfectly reasonable, I think. If you think otherwise then fair enough, others have said that they would do the same so please don't single me out for some sort of attempted humiliation or to pick an argument, because I'm not interested.

Triangle

daisiegg wrote: »

However, my 'scary teacher' street cred did go up briefly after this when it got around the school that I had made an ENTIRE class (it was four girls) stand (they were sitting) facing the wall for the WHOLE lesson (it was 1 minute) while I shouted at them (I virtually never shout as I am well aware my voice goes squeaky and my face turns red!) and forced them to recite Shakespeare to me to be allowed to turn back round (we were studying Of Mice and Men, no Shakespeare in sight). So you can see how these things get hugely exaggerated by teenagers, particularly when they start to gossip about it?

Thanks for sharing this

It takes me right back to high school - though I'm not certain I actually want to be there again!