Taylor Wimpey homes

jenna78

GDB2222 wrote: »

Older houses were not required to meet any specs as far as sound is concerned.

If you are detached, you don't need to worry about noise tranfer. Older houses might not have had sound proofing in mind, but they were at least built to last. Looking at plot sizes, in the last year years houses have been crammed in with little space between them. Even some detached have only an alley space between them, looking at older houses, they have nice space between them. I think everything is being cheapened with new housing. When we looked at the taylor wimpey plan in warton there was not much space between the detached houses, at least not many of them. when we have looked at older estates there is more space and the general feel is better. even thought we are not now bothered about sound proofing as we are buying an older house, i still think people have a point about the build quality. If a home is built cheaply, you get noise through walls, have no space between homes as they are crammed in, life is not going to be ideal. Take into account how much you pay for a peice of paper with NHBC written on it, you might as well pay for a good survey or indemnity insurance and buy a property which has stood the test of time and passes with flying colours. I was almost duped by meadows view and the whole new thing, but now I can see they just talk the talk, but probably don't walk the walk. I am still reading horror stories about these builders and I bet most people who have problems with them don't put it on the internet. I feel like others, run, don't walk and buy a property which you can close the door on and feel good, not deafened by next doors screaming baby or someone having a ppoo. :rotfl:

pimms29

GDB2222 wrote: »

So, between 20 flats, you can't scrape together a few hundred for your own noise engineer? Yet, you are convinced that the sound proofing is inadequate?

Obviously there would not be a problem if 20 people were prepared to contribute to the costs. However as I mentioned in one of my earlier posts, nearly all the residents have the problem but only a minority of people are prepared to do something.

pimms29

ankspon wrote: »

pimms29 it is the same on my estate regarding people complaining about the useless soundproofing but not doing anything about it,i wonder how many people are actually affected nationwide?

I think that you will find a lot of people are affected Nationwide, however most are prepared to put up with it....until they move on, if they can sell the property of course.
It's ok for people on here to criticize on and say "don't blame the builders and you should not have put an apartment"
Well I would not blame the builders if there wasn't a problem OBVIOUSLY and secondly we would not have bought an apartment if we were AWARE OF THE BIG ISSUE WITH NOISE TRANSFERENCE!

GDB2222

pimms29 wrote: »

Obviously there would not be a problem if 20 people were prepared to contribute to the costs. However as I mentioned in one of my earlier posts, nearly all the residents have the problem but only a minority of people are prepared to do something.

Have you asked for an audio consultant to quote for the work? It might only be a few hundred Pounds. Split even just a few ways, you might only be looking at £50-100 each.

I do often wonder when people seem to prefer to complain than to organise to do something.

Keith777

The point is when you buy a new build which is either a flat or attached, noise is such a problem you just want out. We did!

I wouldn't touch a new build which is attached with a ten foot barge pole. I wish people knew what a problem noise is before buying, that way the builders would take steps to better sound proof them.

It shouldn't be down to the person who buys the home in good faith to make such alterations, once the feeling has gone, its gone for good. You feel violated knowing you can hear everything and visa versa, it is wrong to think people should live like that.

My advice is don't buy and if you have one of these vile properties, sell it!

marliepanda

Must say I live in a new build Bellway, and there are no problems with noise. I cant even hear my OH in the next room, never mind next door

I do consider myself lucky, and I do not think we have raucous neighbours though.

Was in a Persimmon build recently and although there was no noise from next door often, the noise from underneath (underground car park) was insane

Keith777

Persimmon homes have the worst reputation of all, don't even think about buying one of those! They are cheap for a REASON.

I think noise much depends on the layout of properties, if you have upstairs flats, you will get noise through the floor.

The problem with our Fairclough home was noise through the lounge and bedroom walls.

It was so bad, even in the bathroom you could hear everything. But throught the bedroom was where you don't want all to be heard, it is inhumane to build properties so badly and design them to be bedroom to bedroom.

If you had staircase and hall adjoining, the noise wouldn't be as much of an issue, but it would still get on your nerves.

I'm not against new build as we are considering a detached house in Warton by Taylor Wimpey. We are now more concerned with the build quality in general, if build quality doesn't have to be good, I am guessing they won't break the bank trying to be a cut above the rest if you know what I am saying.

We will have to do more reseach. My advice is stay clear of attached homes, buy detached, even if it means doing a property up which is older.

GDB2222

We have a house that was built as a semi in the 1970's. Halls-adjoining. Unfortunately, as our next door neighbour has got older, she has also got deafer, and she like to keep the TV on all night at max volume. I guess this is for company/comfort. The point is, though, that we can hear it quite clearly through a proper party wall between the two properties. That will have been (should have been?) built with two separate layers of blockwork with an air gap in between.

So, noise is not just a new problem, and buying an older property is not going to be a magic solution.

pimms29

I understand the point that you are trying to make, however your neighbour has volume up at the maximum level, which obviously anyone would hear.
However you would not expect to hear people walking around there apartment from room to room, just living an everyday normal life.
We realise this is not a new problem, however if the matter is not addressed by the builders i.e. TAYLOR WIMPEY in this case, the matter will get worse and a lot of people could buy totally unaware and be left with a property on their hands that they are NOT able to sell, through no fault of their own.
I think if this problem was close to home i.e. involved a close family or friend to you....then your views would certainly be different.

GDB2222

pimms29 wrote: »

I understand the point that you are trying to make, however your neighbour has volume up at the maximum level, which obviously anyone would hear.
However you would not expect to hear people walking around there apartment from room to room, just living an everyday normal life.
We realise this is not a new problem, however if the matter is not addressed by the builders i.e. TAYLOR WIMPEY in this case, the matter will get worse and a lot of people could buy totally unaware and be left with a property on their hands that they are NOT able to sell, through no fault of their own.
I think if this problem was close to home i.e. involved a close family or friend to you....then your views would certainly be different.

One of the other problems is that everyone wants wood laminate floors these days. For flats, carpets are much better, as less noise is generated and the carpet is quite a good sound absorber. Lots of blocks of flats have clauses in the leases to require carpets on the floors.