Really stressful situation can't sleep. HELP

BrettMorganxD

KiKi wrote: »

This may not help, but I'll say it anyway. You can be dismissed for any reason (discrimination and a few others excepting) in your first year of employment, so probation is a red herring.

Of course HR don't watch you every day. What they will have are records which highlight anomalies such as sickness, disciplinaries and yes - probably extended probation periods. Usually, if one is extended, they'll ask your manager why. They'll get a good enough answer and say 'fine'. But HR is there to support managers, not take the decisions from them (when run properly!).

But ultimately Big Brother is not watching you, and getting through probation doesn't give you any protection with regards to job security until your 12 months are up anyway.

KiKi

I was well aware of that. But everything else is going really well for me in my job and me and my manager get on. I just didn't want dismissing on the grounds of probhation.

BrettMorganxD

M00se wrote: »

The reason I say email her is then you have a record, talking to her face to face wont give you that.

Anyway I agree with the general answers you are getting, you will be fine. Chill a bit

My anxiety and depression has been on the tip of the iceberg for dies jumpy etc etc. This is just the straw

KiKi

BrettMorganxD wrote: »

I was well aware of that. But everything else is going really well for me in my job and me and my manager get on. I just didn't want dismissing on the grounds of probhation.

So why are you asking - repeatedly?

I am 100% sure you will not be dismissed because probation hasn't been signed off on X day. Not everything happens on the right day.

If you don't want to listen to what's being said - or if you know it already - then go to bed and stop worrying!

TrickyWicky

BrettMorganxD wrote: »

and do your HR policy and guidlines state dismissal is possible if not signed off?

Nearly all employers have this in their contracts. I don't see why this is such a big issue to you.

I had one employer sign off my probation 2 months early, another sign it off 2 days before the deadline, another extend it by a month, etc.

YOU ARE PANICKING - STOP. We've told you how it works, you're refusing to believe because you're trying to see something bad happening and trying to justify it to yourself. STOP WORRYING.

If you're that scared start applying for other jobs and float the rumours when you're accepted elsewhere - as I said, this will cause a management panic. Managers don't tend to like it when they suddenly get reference requests land on their desk for staff that are applying to go elsewhere.

KiKi

TrickyWicky wrote: »

If you're that scared start applying for other jobs and float the rumours when you're accepted elsewhere - as I said, this will cause a management panic.

OP, they'll only panic if you're so invaluable that they can't bear to lose you. As you've not passed probation yet that's probably not a good idea.

kingfisherblue

Brett, you are making problems where there are none. You say that you can't sleep for worrying, so may I make a suggestion? First, turn off the computer. You definitely won't sleep whilst you are keeping your mind busy. If you find it hard to sleep, you shouldn't look at a computer or TV screen for two hours before you go to bed - I don't know where I read it, but there is research that shows it is more difficult to sleep if you have been watching a screen. You might also want to establish a calming routine to help you sleep - this includes going to bed and getting up at the same time every day, having a warm milky drink before bed, maybe having a warm (not hot) bath before bed, spending some time relaxing some other way such as reading.

If you are lying in bed, unable to sleep because of thoughts about work, try to change your thought processes to something more pleasant - spend an imaginary win on the lottery, picture yourself on a beach, whatever you think will relax you.

If you don't sleep well enough, you may find it impacts on both your work and your current anxiety issues. make an appointment with your doctor if necessary.

Sweet dreams

BrettMorganxD

TrickyWicky wrote: »

Nearly all employers have this in their contracts. I don't see why this is such a big issue to you.

I had one employer sign off my probation 2 months early, another sign it off 2 days before the deadline, another extend it by a month, etc.

YOU ARE PANICKING - STOP. We've told you how it works, you're refusing to believe because you're trying to see something bad happening and trying to justify it to yourself. STOP WORRYING.

If you're that scared start applying for other jobs and float the rumours when you're accepted elsewhere - as I said, this will cause a management panic. Managers don't tend to like it when they suddenly get reference requests land on their desk for staff that are applying to go elsewhere.

I am panicking because I have been dismissed before and now everything feels like it could happen.

Also sounds like a good idea but, as good as member of staff I am there are others out there wanting jobs so don't see why SHE Would panic/

elsien

BrettMorganxD wrote: »

and do your HR policy and guidlines state dismissal is possible if not signed off? Have u ever had a member of staff either

1) Sacked on the grounds of not doing it in time or

2) Got over the year (where u can no longer be dismissed) without it being done

1) I've never had a member of staff sacked for not doing the probation in time, or had it suggested to me that I should do so. By the time 6 months is up, if I've got serious concerns about someone I'd have addressed it well before that.
2) If I let it drag on for a year I'd be a pretty poor manager, so no it's never got to that stage. (And btw you can be dismissed after a year with proper grounds, it just takes longer as you have more legal protection.)

You really are overthinking this one. One of the more common reasons for probation taking longer is because I need to observe staff doing something, and we are not on shift together at the time it needs to happen. That's not their fault, it's just one of those things. And it sounds like your manager is saying something similar - that she hasn't had time to do what she needs to do with you. It's not unusual, take everyones advice and turn off the computer.

BrettMorganxD

kingfisherblue wrote: »

Brett, you are making problems where there are none. You say that you can't sleep for worrying, so may I make a suggestion? First, turn off the computer. You definitely won't sleep whilst you are keeping your mind busy. If you find it hard to sleep, you shouldn't look at a computer or TV screen for two hours before you go to bed - I don't know where I read it, but there is research that shows it is more difficult to sleep if you have been watching a screen. You might also want to establish a calming routine to help you sleep - this includes going to bed and getting up at the same time every day, having a warm milky drink before bed, maybe having a warm (not hot) bath before bed, spending some time relaxing some other way such as reading.

If you are lying in bed, unable to sleep because of thoughts about work, try to change your thought processes to something more pleasant - spend an imaginary win on the lottery, picture yourself on a beach, whatever you think will relax you.

If you don't sleep well enough, you may find it impacts on both your work and your current anxiety issues. make an appointment with your doctor if necessary.

Sweet dreams

I could do with annual bloody leave. I have a holiday coming up end of march which I am looking so forward to (well, was).

BrettMorganxD

elsien wrote: »

1) I've never had a member of staff sacked for not doing the probation in time, or had it suggested to me that I should do so. By the time 6 months is up, if I've got serious concerns about someone I'd have addressed it well before that.
2) If I let it drag on for a year I'd be a pretty poor manager, so no it's never got to that stage. (And btw you can be dismissed after a year with proper grounds, it just takes longer as you have more legal protection.)

You really are overthinking this one.

2) yeah i know but the manager needs a reason for each of the warnings