Nokia Lumia 710 - £99.95 (+£10 topup) - SIM FREE at CPW instore and online!!

thatsean

That's a great price! I work for a network and I couldn't get one that cheap on PAYT with my discount!

MattLFC

digp wrote: »

this phone is not very good overall.
the camera is very poor.
it has other limitations too.
at this price though it is a bargain even with its limitations.

I beg to differ, although I'm using the phone on a daily basis; the camera isn't the best, admittedly (surprisingly, it is really good with macro shots and night shots, but decidedly average with regular daytime shots), although Nokia will likely improve the quality with firmware updates. For me, I feel they could have made the audio louder (through the speaker), but that's because I'm coming from a TouchPro 2 which was built for "loud" audio (conference calling) and has multiple speakers etc (also had a volume-increaser hack installed on it lol). Comparing the device to many other handsets on the market, it is about standard volume. That would be my only complaint.

If a camera where your main concern, there is better out there, it's the WP operating system that really makes the phone what it is. It's fast, ultra-reliable and easy-to-use (an even easier/better interface than an iPhone in most respects, which imho, is the benchmark for usability), not to mention unique. Battery life is also quite astonishingly good for the amount I use it (really important for me). As you say, at £99, it's a bargain. I wouldn't have paid the RRP of £279, but then I wouldn't pay that for any phone. I'd have paid £199 for it (I was actually about to - I paid £139 in the end including topup, then threw my 3 sim-only contract in it lol).

moneypenny2k

My daughter's contract comes to an end this month. She may want an iPhone but this is what's she's getting. A good compromise methinks. :beer:

digp

MattLFC wrote: »

I beg to differ, although I'm using the phone on a daily basis; the camera isn't the best, admittedly (surprisingly, it is really good with macro shots and night shots, but decidedly average with regular daytime shots), although Nokia will likely improve the quality with firmware updates. For me, I feel they could have made the audio louder (through the speaker), but that's because I'm coming from a TouchPro 2 which was built for "loud" audio (conference calling) and has multiple speakers etc (also had a volume-increaser hack installed on it lol). Comparing the device to many other handsets on the market, it is about standard volume. That would be my only complaint.

If a camera where your main concern, there is better out there, it's the WP operating system that really makes the phone what it is. It's fast, ultra-reliable and easy-to-use (an even easier/better interface than an iPhone in most respects, which imho, is the benchmark for usability), not to mention unique. Battery life is also quite astonishingly good for the amount I use it (really important for me). As you say, at £99, it's a bargain. I wouldn't have paid the RRP of £279, but then I wouldn't pay that for any phone. I'd have paid £199 for it (I was actually about to - I paid £139 in the end including topup, then threw my 3 sim-only contract in it lol).

it is a crap phone. there is no doubt about that. at this price though since it has a fairly fast processor it is worth it. otherwise windows phones have taken the same route that rim (blackberry) have, i.e. a one way road to oblivion (that is what happens when you sell crap).

Earthworm

digp wrote: »

it is a crap phone. there is no doubt about that. at this price though since it has a fairly fast processor it is worth it. otherwise windows phones have taken the same route that rim (blackberry) have, i.e. a one way road to oblivion (that is what happens when you sell crap).

How many windows phones have you used? I'm guessing 0 or an older one. A lot of people bash Windows phone and the majority of people havnt even tried it. Personally I love the Lumia I have (800) but im considering getting my mum the 710. There's some unique games on the phone she's been jealous of me having plus it has decent storage.

gjchester

moneypenny2k wrote: »

She may want an iPhone but this is what's she's getting.

Think carefully about this. It may be money saving but if she hates the phone and still wants an iPhone it's a waste.

Teens phones are as much about street cred and fashion than what they offer.

MattLFC

digp wrote: »

it is a crap phone. there is no doubt about that. at this price though since it has a fairly fast processor it is worth it. otherwise windows phones have taken the same route that rim (blackberry) have, i.e. a one way road to oblivion (that is what happens when you sell crap).

Have you actually used a Windows Phone device, or are you simply talking out of your !!!!?? Windows Phone [IS NOT] Windows Mobile. If you even knew anything about Windows Phone, you would not even be mentioning CPU speed, as Windows Phone runs fast on just about anything, even an 800Mhz CPU (as in the Lumia 610), nevermind the 1400Mhz found in the 710; Microsoft built Windows Phone around speed, reliability and ease-of-use from the start. This isn't clunkdroid, a single-core Lumia will often outperform a quad-core droid device. A friend of mine loves his SII, raves about Android, and was still shocked by the sheer speed and beauty of my 710. He even inadvertently got "smoked" by my 710, and was happy enough to let me take a photo of him, with his SII, and the "smoked by Windows Phone" banner on it in full screen, as he conceeded how good it was. A lot of everyday tasks that the likes of iOS and Android "have an app for", Windows Phone can perform without the need for an app!!

Windows Phone is so crap, that AT&T have made the Windows Phone-powered Lumia 900, their "Hero" phone; that means they rate it, and promote it, ahead of everything else, including the iPhone, SIII etc, and they feel it is where their future success lies. The Lumia 800c already has higher marketshare in China, than the iPhone... bear in mind the Lumia 800c was only launched in China in March!! Analysts have been predicting that 2012 is the year of Windows Phone, and Nokia are really making things happen now, developers are jumping onboard, and the marketplace is the fastest growing app-store around.

Of course it's seen as the underdog right now, it was launched 3 years after the iPhone; but that has advantages, namely, Microsoft got things right, that iPhone and Android got wrong - they learnt from other mistakes. That is what the "Windows Phone Challenge" is all about, showing people that tasks people use their smartphones for every day, multiple times a day, are made easier, faster and smoother by Windows Phone. As Nokia's adverts in the US say, the "Smartphone BETA test" is now over.

You only have to look on the iPhone/Apple forums, where you have hardcore Apple fanbois praising/jealous the smoothness, reliability and usability of the OS (admiration for another OS, from people on the iOS side is something that is unheard of, prior to Windows Phone), the graphical beauty to the point whereby they are demanding Apple up their game significantly, and then "iOS6 wishlists" practically full of features that are already in Windows Phone as standard, to realise how wonderful an OS it is. Steve Wozniak, the co-founder of Apple, recently described it as "Intuitive and beautiful" and "it sets the mark for user interface". He also claimed "it's makes me feel 'Oh my gosh, I'm with a friend not a tool'" and "I just really like the experience and will be carrying the Windows Phone everywhere". In addition, he noted how apps look just "more beautiful than on Android or iPhone" and perhaps the ultimate testament to the OS, he said "I surmise that Microsoft hired someone from Apple and put money into having a role in the UI and appearance of some key apps, and that Steve Jobs might have been reincarnated at MS due to a lot of what I see and feel with this phone making me think of a lot of great Apple things".

Of course it's easy to forgive your scepticism, as that's the hurdle everyone is having to get over now, but really, you should actually bother to use a device (or better still, the OS on any Windows Phone), before making silly comments about CPU speeds and the like.

:money:

sdduk

Your best bet is to look around at different reviews and take it from there

Have a read on c/net uk they are quite good with there reviews i always have a look here before buying any phone.

http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/nokia-lumia-710-review-
50005809/

digp

See other post.

digp

MattLFC wrote: »

... ease-of-use ... A lot of everyday tasks that the likes of iOS and Android "have an app for", Windows Phone can perform without the need for an app!!


... Steve Wozniak, the co-founder of Apple, recently described it as "Intuitive and beautiful" and "it sets the mark for user interface". He also claimed "it's makes me feel 'Oh my gosh, I'm with a friend not a tool'" and "I just really like the experience and will be carrying the Windows Phone everywhere". .....

Well Steve also "noted that his iPhone remains his preferred device overall".

Ease of use? Read this article to bust that myth. And to have a fully featured dialer, you need to purchase a 3rd party app.

"Windows Phone can perform without the need for an app!!" If you say so.