Cyclists not using hand signals

sharpy2010

Bloody cyclists seem to completely ignore red lights, and don't stop at them. As a car driver, it makes me cringe how unbelievably dangerous this is, but cyclists (whom one can only assume do not have a driving licence) seem completely oblivious and just go through without a second thought to what might happen, as if the red light is nothing to do with them.

Makes me somewhat apprenhensive to go through a green light in my car, in case a cyclist is going through a red light in the other direction!!!!!!!!

discplayer

custardy wrote: »

difficult? no
expensive,yes
until its a legal requirement then its unlikely to happen bar niche products.
margins are tight on bikes.
Shimano are already into their 2nd year f electric groupsets on bikes
we already have modern hub dynams with capaciters
however any indicator product is IME expensive and poorly implemented

I agree with the last bit - I have a front light that really lights up a dark country lane but at times of poor daylight they're pretty feable. The other thing is theft and vandalism. I've always removed lights when leaving my bike somewhere but in the last year have had the fitting stolen twice so that comes of too now.

I do often signal with my arm, but as others have said, pot holes and other stuff going on mean it's often better to keep your hands on the controls.

When driving, I do find it a good warning of a manoeuvre when a cyclist looks round at me.

custardy

sharpy2010 wrote: »

Bloody cyclists seem to completely ignore red lights, and don't stop at them. As a car driver, it makes me cringe how unbelievably dangerous this is, but cyclists (whom one can only assume do not have a driving licence) seem completely oblivious and just go through without a second thought to what might happen, as if the red light is nothing to do with them.

Makes me somewhat apprenhensive to go through a green light in my car, in case a cyclist is going through a red light in the other direction!!!!!!!!

maybe if you weren't drink driving and speeding,then it wouldnt be such a worry.

Tilt

custardy wrote: »

maybe if you weren't drink driving and speeding,then it wouldnt be such a worry.

That's a bit of an accusation isn't it? It 'wouldn't be such a worry' if cyclists abided by the law either. Mind you, I wonder how many actually get prosecuted for going through red lights?

Dave_C_2

Looking at it from a cyclist's POV:

Bloody motorists seem to completely ignore amber lights, and don't even stop on red. As a cyclist (who holds a valid driving license), it makes me cringe how unbelievably dangerous this is, but drivers (many of whom are driving illegally) seem completely oblivious and just go through without a second thought to what might happen, as if the red light is nothing to do with them.

Makes me somewhat apprehensive to go through a green light on my bike, in case a driver is going through a red light in the other direction!

Still it is comforting to know that car drivers are safe in their metal cocoon and if there is a collision, I will be the one requiring medical attention.

Dave

andreauk2009

Well, I've to admit I'm not the most respectful cyclist either. Sometimes when I'm cycling on a slope hill and I've to turn chance to use my hand are limited unless I don't want to fall down.

But I appreciate the fact this is important. Perhaps someone should invent some portable turn indicators for the bike

sharpy2010

custardy wrote: »

maybe if you weren't drink driving and speeding,then it wouldnt be such a worry.

And where did you get that I drink drive and speed?

I definitely don't drink drive, and only occasionally creep over the speed limit unintentionally, like I suspect most law abiding motorists do.

I'd suggest you don't accuse me of those things again.

jase1

custardy wrote: »

difficult? no
expensive,yes
until its a legal requirement then its unlikely to happen bar niche products.
margins are tight on bikes.
Shimano are already into their 2nd year f electric groupsets on bikes
we already have modern hub dynams with capaciters
however any indicator product is IME expensive and poorly implemented

Nonetheless, if cyclists are going to twist about using their arms being too difficult, and then refuse to go for an alternative because it's too expensive, why exactly should other road users show sympathy?

custardy

jase1 wrote: »

Nonetheless, if cyclists are going to twist about using their arms being too difficult, and then refuse to go for an alternative because it's too expensive, why exactly should other road users show sympathy?

I dont recall asking for any?

custardy

Tilt wrote: »

That's a bit of an accusation isn't it? It 'wouldn't be such a worry' if cyclists abided by the law either. Mind you, I wonder how many actually get prosecuted for going through red lights?

sharpy2010 wrote: »

And where did you get that I drink drive and speed?

I definitely don't drink drive, and only occasionally creep over the speed limit unintentionally, like I suspect most law abiding motorists do.

I'd suggest you don't accuse me of those things again.

step back,think it over.