Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

vinnyph

Quentin wrote: »

You know that you are now concocting lies as some sort of attempt to deflect the issue of your colleague's outrageous claim regarding the uw being the cheapest energy supplier.

I did not make the statement you allege.

I have not told any other lies.

Not getting into a tennis match over this.

When first wanting me to admit to the lie you threatened legal action. Put your money where your mouth is!

Just as a reminder Quentin that I have not made the claim you state. You are simply trying to misquote someone, again. As I said in a previous post, you keep on until someone tells you to shut up. It seems that Nigewick is really just saying shut up Quentin in a polite way. This is what usually happens to you. You have annoyed everyone else too much in the past. What will happen next is that you will lay low for a while and lurk around another thread until you think people have forgotten and then come back again. People have a better memory than that Quentin. They realise what you are like because you are so predicable.

Before you go though could you enlighten us to your UW beating cashback card. Why don't you tell us who you are with as well so we can see if your advice that you believe every customer should leave UWDC is justified or not. I am sure us being caring, helpful, fair people we will go easy on you.

Long Term UWDC Customer who became a Distributor because it proved to be good and other people liked it as well.

kippen_noedel

vinnyph wrote: »

You are simply trying to misquote someone

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You have a barefaced cheek to accuse anyone of misquoting, post after post after post you misquoted me, answered questions I had not asked pretending I had.

The disgraceful thing is that you claim to be a God fearing righteous person, obviously you aren't as God fearing as you pretend.

SwanJon

Vinny, while we are waiting for Carmine to answer this (could someone quote it in case he still has me on ignore from when I called him on his tactics):

SwanJon wrote: »

Can you break this down further?
What were the charges for each of these?
What deduction did you get from the cash card?
What about the discounts you get for having promoted UW to friends/family? You've told us that you did this so....

Remember that any decuction you get from using the cashback card would also apply if you didn't take electricity or gas from UW.

So if you dropped UW for gas and electricity you would still get the same dedection. All you would lose is your 24/7 calls - how many calls to what destinations did you make?

The rest of your post is merely posturing and trying to make your descision look like the right one.

Can you back up this claim, or is it another fabrication?

vinnyph wrote: »

I noticed that british gas Websaver 4 would charge £902 and british gas websaver 3 £926. So how long before the Websaver 5 discount reduces its discount and websaver 6 replaces it, because websaver 4 was only introduced a few months ago.

When did the price of websaver 4 change? Just the date and before and after p/kWh will be fine for your chose reason.
For newcomers, Vinny has tried this before. He doesn't seem to grasp the fact that if a new, cheaper tariff is introduced previous tariffs can, and often do, remain unchanged. Otherwise, all existing customers of UW had a £100 price increase when all new customers get their £100 bonus.

He then goes on to claim all discounts he receives only against his gas and electricity, a la Carmine.

vinnyph

kippen_noedel wrote: »

:eek: :eek: :eek:
You have a barefaced cheek to accuse anyone of misquoting, post after post after post you misquoted me, answered questions I had not asked pretending I had.

The disgraceful thing is that you claim to be a God fearing righteous person, obviously you aren't as God fearing as you pretend.

You attack Christians and deny God. I have a relationship with God. I forgive people as forgiven people have learnt to forgive others. I even forgive Quentin sometimes even though he never repents. It is only God who is righteous. It seems you will only find everlasting fire. You may may feel at home there, you overheat your house. Maybe its to make yourself ready to get more used to the heat. I reckon I could save you a bundle be teaching you to use less. For instance you could turn the heating thermostat down from 45 degrees Celcius or do you still think in Fahrenheit and set the thermostat thinking its in that scale.

kippen_noedel

vinnyph wrote: »

you overheat your house

How on earth do you know my home is overheated ? ....

vinnyph wrote: »

You attack Christians and deny God. I have a relationship with God

I certainly have not "attacked" Christians - another lying misquote from you. I attacked the contradictions of the Bible and asked you what made your version of Religion so much better than all the rest. If you are so fragile in your belief you took that as an attack, you need help.
I don't "deny" God, and half of the planet will disagree with your projection of such a being. 70%+ do not believe in Jesus as the son of God either.

As for your relationship, that is a joke. If there is such a being, then if I am heading towards a deep fryed solution, I'll be seeing you there after this disgusting, and far from Christian comment

vinnyph wrote: »

God wasted his time when he created you

Your "Father", must be so proud of you..

From everything I have read I have come to the conclusion your "faith" has proven very profitable in recruiting converts to your cheap personal energy bills. Are all your clients members of your local church or just the vast majority of them ??

I still do not know why you brought God into this thread about UW and their very high energy prices, possibly when you reflect, you might wish to share your reasons with everyone

rippedoffbyspark

vinny you should apologise to kippen as that was a bit below the belt i mean its ok you all have your little arguments etc but to say hes burning in hell ? come on not a christian thing to say

Quentin

vinnyph wrote:

God wasted his time when he created you

This one is just one step beyond the boundary of your normal bad taste.

No-one should be allowed to post such abuse.

The uw and your colleague uw reps will surely want to be distanced from you. This is in a separate league to you posting misleading claims!

Cardew

Vinny is attempting to get this thread locked again by bringing religion into play!

I refuse to believe he is quite as stupid as he portrays himself.

Sadly, several of you have fallen for his ploy!

Why not concentrate on UW's extremely high prices?

Cardew

1carminestocky wrote: »

Well, it's taken way longer than it should have (we have after all been dealing with someone slippery enough to walk under a snake wearing a top hat without them suspecting owt) but we have proof positive (amazingly enough provided by the man himself) of what I've been accusing Cardew of being all the time - a king-sized hypocrite. He's the archetypical 'do as I say, not as a I do' type as well, which for me has always been the very worst version. The Diane Abbott of the UW thread. I feel strangely vindicated. :beer:

Getting desperate now carespress?

Why not concentrate on UW's extremely high prices?

vinnyph

SwanJon wrote: »

Vinny, while we are waiting for Carmine to answer this (could someone quote it in case he still has me on ignore from when I called him on his tactics):



Can you back up this claim, or is it another fabrication?


When did the price of websaver 4 change? Just the date and before and after p/kWh will be fine for your chose reason.
For newcomers, Vinny has tried this before. He doesn't seem to grasp the fact that if a new, cheaper tariff is introduced previous tariffs can, and often do, remain unchanged. Otherwise, all existing customers of UW had a £100 price increase when all new customers get their £100 bonus.

He then goes on to claim all discounts he receives only against his gas and electricity, a la Carmine.

The £100 discount is only one of Utility Warehouse Discount Club discounts. If I were to get that as well as the other discounts I would end up paying £491 instead of £591 for telephone, line rental, broadband, gas and electricity. Somehow at £491 it starts to seem unfair on UWDC. If I were on BG click 6 I would pay £1019 a year just for gas and electricity online deal without broadband, telephone and line rental. I can see why UWDC customers tend to stay where they are. In fact I forgot to include the member discounts I have got over the last year as well earlier.

What you say about BG online deals doesn't fall in line with what your customers of BG tell me when I go and see them. All I do is tell them how UWDC works, it's them who tell me that their discount with BG gets worse as time goes by. It's them who alerted me. It's the reason they wanted to move. It's not something that I have told them because I never put another company down in front of them. So you are telling me then that price never actually changes. So how come BG click 1 is £1015 on energyhelpline for my usage I gave earlier, wheras BG standard on energyhelpline is £1030. It seems anyone on one of the click tariffs isn't getting much of a discount, whereas when I went to see them a few years back they were getting a nice saving against BG standard. There seems to be a common trend that the further back you go the worse the discount gets until you end up paying near standard prices. As the following table seems to indicate that I did by inputting each British Gas online tariff into energyhelpline. It is in chronological order with BG standard to compare, all on monthly direct debit.

standard £1030
click 1 £1015
click 2 £
click 3 £
click 4 £1017
click 5 £1017
click 6 £1019
websaver 1 £911
websaver 2 £930
websaver 3 £926
websaver 4 £902
websaver 5 £845

I couldn't enter the figures for click 2 and click 3 because these two tariffs would not allow economy 7. I double checked this on uswitch as well and it too would not allow me either. The prices were the same on both sites that could be in-putted. Anyone on any of the click tariffs seems to be paying near BG standard rates. As you go back in time each online deal gets worse and worse with the exception being websaver 1.

So your customers say their online tariff BG discount has got worse over time, the online energy swapping sites seem to indicate that also. It seems to be only you who says is doesn't. Are you saying the prices on energyhelpline and uswitch are incorrect. Something is amiss here. If energyhelpline and uswitch prices are incorrect you should get someone to change them. If I worked for BG I would ensure they are corrected else in would make me look quite bad.

Long Term UWDC Customer who became a Distributor because it proved to be good and other people liked it as well.