Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

SwanJon

1carminestocky wrote: »

I'm currently concentrating on the old bluffer that is Cardew/Rupert.

And avoiding any awkward questions...

1carminestocky wrote: »

If you're talking of SwanJon ...Best to do as I do - put him on ignore,

Yes, it makes it much easier to win an argument when you ignore the what the otherside says.

janninew wrote: »

Aren't you suppose to declare if you work for UW or any other utility company when you post? I don't think these rules are being followed! Makes it hard to know who is actually impartial!

1carminestocky wrote: »

he flounts the rules all the time.... he rarely contributes anything worth reading in this thread anyway, it's not a great loss TBH.

Even without Carmine's usual 'help' I'd have reaslised that was a dig at me. On threads about British Gas I usually do say I work there - that is why I have suggested we take any discussion about other suppliers into their own thread where I'll happily join in.
However, those on this thread who sell UW products (ie the IDs & Carmine) will use my employer to take the conversation away form UW's gas & electricity. Witness Vinny's desperation not to talk about UW's Gas & electricity.
If you feel that any of my comments are not impartial due to my employer let me know - I'd like to think that I grew up enough to seperate things like this out a long time ago, but always willing to take feedback on board.
Carmine is obviously entitled to his opinion of the quality of my posts, but seeing as he has me on ignore, I wonder how he judges that?

janninew

SwanJon wrote: »

And avoiding any awkward questions...

Yes, it makes it much easier to win an argument when you ignore the what the otherside says.




Even without Carmine's usual 'help' I'd have reaslised that was a dig at me. On threads about British Gas I usually do say I work there - that is why I have suggested we take any discussion about other suppliers into their own thread where I'll happily join in.
However, those on this thread who sell UW products (ie the IDs & Carmine) will use my employer to take the conversation away form UW's gas & electricity. Witness Vinny's desperation not to talk about UW's Gas & electricity.
If you feel that any of my comments are not impartial due to my employer let me know - I'd like to think that I grew up enough to seperate things like this out a long time ago, but always willing to take feedback on board.
Carmine is obviously entitled to his opinion of the quality of my posts, but seeing as he has me on ignore, I wonder how he judges that?

At the end of the day the rules on this thread are different to the rest of the board and everybody affiliated with a utility company UW or otherwise should declare it! Them's are the rules I'm afraid!! It wasn't a dig at you personally, just a reminder for a few people who seem to forget!

Quentin

uptomyeyeballs wrote: »

Get a life, instead of wasting your time pontificating on here like an anally retentive !!!!!!.

Lovely turn of phrase.

NigeWick

Quentin wrote: »

Not getting into a tennis match over this.

Great. Just post the link to your Utility Warehouse pre payment card beating cashback card. Not too much to ask in order to show your veracity surely?

I am a Utility Warehouse independent distributor and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

vinnyph

kippen_noedel wrote: »

and what about the setting up of the Church of Rome as a bullwark against the rising Jewish fight against occupation.

What about the vote whether to nominate Jesus as the son of God, 7:6 circa AD53

a messiah at those times meant the leader of a warrior clan, conveniently mistranslated for the bible

a virgin at those times meant an unmarried mother, again conveniently mistranslated for the bible

what about the conveniently excluded books of the new testament

I can go on and on and on about contradictions, you aren't the only person to have actually read the bible you know. I just went further and read other texts as well. The Book of Gilgamesh is an interesting source for material included in the New Testament. One of the reasons why Judaism & Islam think it's a load of codswallop.


and what about those very high charges UW make for their gas and electricity.

I also have read other texts. I guess like the many differing gnostic ideas you believe that knowledge is more important than God. Will mere knowledge give you salvation? Will having an excellent command of the English language free you. There were many hundreds of books written at the time about Jesus with people having all sorts of ideas, some inspired, some not. The original biblical text many times shows Christ himself revealing his true nature. The belief that Jesus is Son of God was believed before AD53, it still needed to be discussed and understood how to be applied. All the original orthodox apostolistic churches believe the same doctrine of Christ including Eastern orthodox, Coptic orthodox, Greek orthodox, Catholic etc. All four biblical gospels were accepted very early on as being inspired. It took a while to go through all the other texts. Most people who think Dan Brown was alive when it happened falsely say the council of Nicea introduced Christ as the Son of God. Christ himself accepted he is Son of God.

It is true as you say that Judaism is still waiting for their messiah.

Islam would not like you to question my belief and faith and are taught to respect other peoples faith in God. They believe that Christ will be there at the Judgement. They also would not like Dan Brown.

Your ideals seem more based on contradiction and questioning than anything else. Regardless of the contradictions I see in what you say yourself and also the Humanists you pointed out I put in question your ability to question. You seem to have read the texts just in question and have sort no inspiration. I still think you would be better off applying the morals rather than attempting to merely question everything. I just don't really see you as someone with the inspiration to question God. No matter how much you have read you have not been inspired and that is worse than never having read the texts in the first place. So you seem to have just wasted your time reading them if you have sort just to question. I read the texts for inspiration. Have you ever thought that God probably thinks your ideas are a load of. The difference is he is the creator and you are just a landlord and he judges you.

Are you planning to become the next Dan Brown. Like him you could make millions. His books are in the fiction department.

I notice that in your posts God comes first then UWDC comes after. At least you are learning something.

I am not being overcharged for my gas and electricity at all with UWDC as is the case with others as well. With my discounts I get everything for £591 as I have already posted before. How much are you paying? I will answer that, a lot more than me.

Long Term UWDC Customer who became a Distributor because it proved to be good and other people liked it as well.

NigeWick

Cardew wrote: »

Why not concentrate on UW's extremely high prices?

Why not answer the question:-

Do you believe there is not one person (not being a UW distributor) who can benefit by being a Utility Warehouse customer?

I am a Utility Warehouse independent distributor and the views I express may not be shared by the company.

NigeWick

Quentin wrote: »

It's a disgrace. But if you can spot which posters are imposters then you aren't being fooled!

Help the rest of us and out them.

By posting a link to your Utility Warehouse pre payment card beating cashback card.

vinnyph

I think the consensus of opinion seems to say the same thing and the signs are evident. The AUWF really have lost their way.

No matter how many times they try to dictate, bluster and bluff otherwise their core arguments against UWDC have all been answered in detail and proved to be incorrect. The only thing they have left is to whinge and moan and try to distort what other people say or infer something that is not there. They must have a very strange dislike for UWDC if they continue even after the dust has settled on their arguments.

Long Term UWDC Customer who became a Distributor because it proved to be good and other people liked it as well.

Cardew

vinnyph wrote: »

I think the consensus of opinion seems to say the same thing and the signs are evident.

What the concensus of opinion might be amongst UW salesmen is unimportant.

The inescapable fact is that UW gas and electricity is just about the most expensive in UK and £hundreds more than the cheapest tariff - generally around 30%.

That fact can be confirmed by checking the tariffs in any comparison website or by comparing the tariffs yourself.

There is no need to listen to either side of the argument on this thread, just confirm the facts with any independant source..

Plushchris

Vinny, any chance of actually answering the following questions instead of spouting all the religeous (and off topic) claptrap?

Plushchris wrote: »

Vinny, a few questions (again)

Where is the consumer focus code of confidence logo on the UW website and their "savings calculator"??

Exactly what are the "many discounts" a gas and electricity customer gets with UW?

How can you deny that UW gas and electricity unit prices are among the most expensive in the country?

Just the answers please, no religeous guff