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  • vinnyph
    vinnyph Posts: 583 Forumite
    edited 12 December 2009 at 9:50PM
    Plushchris wrote: »
    Real grown up attitude you got there Vinny

    What makes you think you are such an expert anyway, the fact you paid £200 to UW to become a distributer?

    You only have that attitude because I got a customer today and you didn't. Looooser. Looooser. Jealousy is not a virtue. If you can't beat them join them.

    Many years of experience has made me an expert not just making things up as is the case with the Anti UW Faction. It takes years of concentrated effort to get as good as me. It takes 5 mins to be part of the Anti UW Faction. Even a recent UWDC recruit who has been on training once would be more informed. Someone told me once I am like a using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

    Proud UWDC Distributor and long term customer.

    Next question.
    Quentin's Cashback Card?
    Let no man, advert or internet site tell me where to get my Utilities
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Rampant Recycler
    vinnyph wrote: »
    It seems KippenNoedel doesn't like UWDC distributors earning money for effort they put in. When asked by Maz recently, however, he has admitted that he doesn't have a normal job as such. He is a landlord and profits from the earnings of his tenants efforts in their jobs.

    My point here is why does he have such an issue with UWDC distributors putting effort into their business in order to gain financial security when he himself is simply profiting from other peoples efforts. It seems he has one rule for himself and another UWDC Distributors.

    I thought I would just add at the end because I can foretell his thinking, it's because I can understand someone else perspective. Far from being expensive the package of services and the many discounts mean UWDC customers in many cases get the cheapest in the country for them. I wonder if he worries unduly when he decides to put the rent up if he is providing the absolute cheapest rent in the country. If he doesn't there is a word that springs to mind.

    Proud UWDC Distributor and long term customer.

    You, again, totally miss the point!

    Kippen does not come on MSE and tout for tenants by using misleading claims.

    You, as witnessed in the post quoted above, do exactly that - tout for custom using misleading claims.

    Your gas and electricity is without question just about the most expensive in UK - £hundreds more than the cheapest tariffs.

    If you want to use the UW cashcard and spend many thousands of pounds in the shops that accept the card, you don't have to pay £hundreds extra for your gas and electricity.
  • Plushchris
    Plushchris Posts: 3,592 Forumite
    vinnyph wrote: »

    Next question.

    Apart from the other questions you havent answered already, where did you get that information that UW will have 1,000,000 in "the next couple of years"??

    Bit vague information, did you make it up?

    At least my information comes from more reliable resources ;)
    Missing Tesco R&R since Feb '07 :A & now a "Tesco veteran" apparently! ;)
  • vinnyph
    vinnyph Posts: 583 Forumite
    Cardew wrote: »
    You, again, totally miss the point!

    Kippen does not come on MSE and tout for tenants by using misleading claims.

    You, as witnessed in the post quoted above, do exactly that - tout for custom using misleading claims.

    Your gas and electricity is without question just about the most expensive in UK - £hundreds more than the cheapest tariffs.

    If you want to use the UW cashcard and spend many thousands of pounds in the shops that accept the card, you don't have to pay £hundreds extra for your gas and electricity.

    No I didn't miss the point

    I don't come here touting for customers, I don't need to, people come to me from referral from satisfied customers who have been with me a long time. Is it my fault that I am a friendly, positive person, well yes it is really. You can try to divert attention from your own shortcoming cardew but I am afraid it doesn't wash with me.

    You again choose to ignore the UWDC Discounts. There's no getting around that Cardew, no matter how much you try. The Cashback Card becomes another discount you don't get elsewhere.

    Your own discount with BG finishes in April does it not. Mine with UWDC do not stop, so I don't have to keep swapping company every few months.

    Proud UWDC Distributor and long term customer.
    Quentin's Cashback Card?
    Let no man, advert or internet site tell me where to get my Utilities
  • Plushchris
    Plushchris Posts: 3,592 Forumite
    vinnyph wrote: »
    No I didn't miss the point

    I don't come here touting for customers, I don't need to, people come to me from referral from satisfied customers who have been with me a long time. Is it my fault that I am a friendly, positive person, well yes it is really. You can try to divert attention from your own shortcoming cardew but I am afraid it doesn't wash with me.

    You again choose to ignore the UWDC Discounts. There's no getting around that Cardew, no matter how much you try. The Cashback Card becomes another discount you don't get elsewhere.

    Your own discount with BG finishes in April does it not. Mine with UWDC do not stop, so I don't have to keep swapping company every few months.

    Proud UWDC Distributor and long term customer.

    Why are you so fixated on UW "discounts" not being included when UW NEVER include other companies discounts (dual fuel, direct debit, online billing etc) in their comparisons?

    One rule for UW and another for everyone else then?
    Missing Tesco R&R since Feb '07 :A & now a "Tesco veteran" apparently! ;)
  • vinnyph
    vinnyph Posts: 583 Forumite
    Plushchris wrote: »
    Apart from the other questions you havent answered already, where did you get that information that UW will have 1,000,000 in "the next couple of years"??

    Bit vague information, did you make it up?

    At least my information comes from more reliable resources ;)

    I didn't say next couple of years, I said next few years. That's where your mistake is. Now it seems you expect me to also get a web link from the future.

    1,000,000 will happen simply following the growth rate that UWDC has encountered already. If you have any experience in market analysis you would see that if a company is:-
    • debt free,
    • has multi award winning service,
    • low customer churn,
    • customers who are very satisfied and recommend to their friends,
    • does not need to advertise and so save money,
    • provide services that everyone uses every day,
    • unique in marketplace,
    • brings innovation,
    • already growing at a fast rate,

    will inevitably continue to grow at a fast rate. In fact the last few months have see the rate of growth continue to keep increasing. The other thing is, UWDC has me as well.

    Do you have any experience in market analysis.

    Proud UWDC Distributor and long term customer.
    Quentin's Cashback Card?
    Let no man, advert or internet site tell me where to get my Utilities
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,060 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Rampant Recycler
    vinnyph wrote: »
    Your own discount with BG finishes in April does it not.

    Yes sadly my BG tariff does finish on April 30 2010.

    I haven't actually switched every few months, I will have been on this tariff for four and a half years.

    At the moment I pay over £800 a year less on my tariff than I would if I were silly enough to have UW as my gas and electricity supplier.

    If my tariff ended today and I had to switch to another tariff, the cheapest tariff for my consumption and area is £621 less than the UW tariff.

    Mmmm decisions, decisions!!

    What would be your advice?
  • Plushchris
    Plushchris Posts: 3,592 Forumite
    vinnyph wrote: »
    I didn't say next couple of years, I said next few years. That's where your mistake is. .

    Sorry, you were even more vague than I thought! :rolleyes:
    Missing Tesco R&R since Feb '07 :A & now a "Tesco veteran" apparently! ;)
  • vinnyph
    vinnyph Posts: 583 Forumite
    Plushchris wrote: »
    Why are you so fixated on UW "discounts" not being included when UW NEVER include other companies discounts (dual fuel, direct debit, online billing etc) in their comparisons?

    One rule for UW and another for everyone else then?

    So where can you say UW NEVER include other companies discounts. That's just another thing you have made up to try to support your distorted view. You can't just make things up in desperation. That's something Quentin usually does as in his UW beating cashback card.

    Proud UWDC Distributor and long term customer.

    next
    Quentin's Cashback Card?
    Let no man, advert or internet site tell me where to get my Utilities
  • vinnyph
    vinnyph Posts: 583 Forumite
    edited 12 December 2009 at 11:04PM
    Plushchris wrote: »
    Sorry, you were even more vague than I thought! :rolleyes:
    No, you just misquoted what I said and didn't like it when I pointed this out because it showed you up. All I can say is your experience is showing through. Not. You should be more gracious in defeat. Blustering is no replacement for truth.

    Proud UWDC Distributor and long term customer.

    next
    Quentin's Cashback Card?
    Let no man, advert or internet site tell me where to get my Utilities
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