Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

Decado23

Quentin wrote: »

In fact your colleagues warn you (as you are the main offender when it comes to criticising uw there) not to be so critical of uw over on that forum (eg you have a thread there (started by keggs) entitled "Why is UW letting us down" (still say you are "very happy" with uw, or do you just say it here?)

A typical comment aimed at keggs by one of his 30,000 colleagues regarding his posts on the reps forum:

Does it not occur to you that taking information posted on a private, password protected website and then posting it publicly is potentially an invasion of privacy and breach of Jez' copyright (he owns the site it was taken from).

How can you criticise other people's words or actions when you persist in this type of activity, continually insult UW customers & Distributors against the rules of this very thread and have a habit of making incorrect and potentially libellous accusations?


UW distributor.

Quentin

vinnyph wrote: »

news today.

This so called "news" is brought here by vinnyph who is actually a rep for uw.

Their reps are supposed to declare their interest when posting here.

For reasons known only to vinnyph he chooses not to inform us of this!

vinnyph

I guess Quintin doesn't like to see UW doing well.

UW Distributor

I guess it's obvious that Quentin has a misguided hatred for anything to do with UW so there is no point in him showing what interest he has in his altruistic quest.

Decado23

Quentin wrote: »

This so called "news" is brought here by vinnyph who is actually a rep for uw.

Their reps are supposed to declare their interest when posting here.

For reasons known only to vinnyph he chooses not to inform us of this!

maybe a little reminder is in order -

from post 1 by MSE Martin

i. All Telecom Plus Distributers must declare it when they post
ii. All workers or those related to other utility companies must declare it
iii. There are to be no abusive comments, accusations of fraud.
iv. Anyone breaking the above rules will be barred first of all from this board, and if they persist from the Chat Forums

I hate having to be so draconian, yet this problem has lasted for more than a year. So it is time to sort it out.

My basic view on Utility Warehouse is contained within this article

For general, non-UW, discussions on gas & electricity click here

And Please I know there are two very polemic views on Utility Warehouse going to be expressed in this thread. Please do not libel anyone. Treat those with opposing arguments with respect, even though you disagree and please try and avoid personal remarks. I live in hope!

For reasons known only to Quentin, he seems to think only the first rule is important.


UW Distributor

Quentin

Decado23 wrote: »

Does it not occur to you that taking information posted on a private, password protected website and then posting it publicly is potentially an invasion of privacy and breach of Jez' copyright (he owns the site it was taken from)

Jez seems quite happy to use youtube to get better circulation for the videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYxtq6qLiLA (Click on more from Jez Tromans to see a list of the training videos uploaded - includes the infamous one teaching uw reps how to ask a friend to help out over a "problem")

Previously your colleagues have tried to "defend" the deceitful practices encouraged in the videos by saying they aren't "official UW" videos, but the work of rogue reps!

Why are you concerned they are being seen by outsiders?

The only dissenting voice over on the reps forum on the subject of the videos being available on the net via google/youtube is from guess who?

(Keggs of course!)

Decado23

Quentin wrote: »

Why are you concerned they are being seen by outsiders?

I'm not. I'm simply highlighting your continued hypocrisy. Besides, it should have been obvious that I'm reffering to your quotes of comments made on another forum, entirely seperate from this one, made with the expectation of privacy and completely unverifiable by anyone that does not have legitimate access (or is unwilling to gain illigitimate access) to those forums.

And people complain when Carmine or myself quote comments on these forums and accuse us of stalking. Hypocrisy again.


UW Distributor

keggs

Decado23 wrote: »

I'm not. I'm simply highlighting your continued hypocrisy. Besides, it should have been obvious that I'm reffering to your quotes of comments made on another forum, entirely seperate from this one, made with the expectation of privacy and completely unverifiable by anyone that does not have legitimate access (or is unwilling to gain illigitimate access) to those forums.

And people complain when Carmine or myself quote comments on these forums and accuse us of stalking. Hypocrisy again.


UW Distributor

What concerns me Decado is not just the illegitimate use of information posted on a 'private' site (forgetting anything openly posted on youtube) but the fact that Quentin doesn't seem to find it morally, ethically or legally wrong to do so. Yet he is the first to accuse others of deceit.

What kind of person does that?

Can I publicly ask the moderators of this forum to monitor posts from now on properly to ensure that posters do not use this site for their own personal agenda whether that is to spam (something Quentin is fond of accusing IDs of) or for potential libelous behaviour.

vinnyph

I think it's safe just to ignore what Quentin says. Apart from his constant unfounded accusations, he has never brought forward anything credible. It's just a good thing people quickly realise this.

keggs

vinnyph wrote: »

I think it's safe just to ignore what Quentin says. Apart from his constant unfounded accusations, he has never brought forward anything credible. It's just a good thing people quickly realise this.

I've tried to put Quentin on my ignore list but for some reason the site won't accept it. I also tried to put Cardew on the list but for some reason his username is not recognised even though I found it in the member list.

So I suppose I am stuck with having to read his bile.

vinnyph

The ironic thing is when Quentin post links to networkerplus or to youtube it just gets people to look at the videos. It's funny really that in Quentins failing attempts to try to undermine UW he just gets people to have a look at the videos and links. People realise there is nothing wrong with them and probably want to get involved or become customers. I wonder if the increase in activity in UW actually has something to do with Quentins links.