Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

Quentin

keggs wrote: »

Actually I misread your post originally which is why I edited.

As usual you are very quick to make accusations without knowing the real facts.

Your cynical edit came after my post! As I posted your mention of your "new" forum is just a red herring.

So which "real facts" are we missing out on?

keggs

Note to PlushChris

You are right in your assertion that would be back. I don't want to be back. But if people make comments using my comments (or me personally) as a reference point as Quentin in particular has done on countless occasions don't expect me to to ignore the posts.

If you truly wish me to be off then please ask your friend to stop bringing me into your conversations.

keggs

Quentin wrote: »

Your cynical edit came after my post! As I posted your mention of your "new" forum is just a red herring.

So which "real facts" are we missing out on?

It might have come after your post I didn't actually bother to read it as I actually re read your previous post. So your 'red herring' can go back and swim.

keggs

Quentin wrote: »

Your cynical edit came after my post! As I posted your mention of your "new" forum is just a red herring.

So which "real facts" are we missing out on?

The real facts are UW is a decent company; its IDs are decent people and its customers are obviously getting a good deal for them because they are staying with the company. I've still got a customer who I signed up 10 years ago.

keggs

uptomyeyeballs wrote: »

I don't need to worry about the law of libel as I am not the one making allegations. It is for you if you make allegations to understand the risks involved. If you are happy that you haven't written anything libellous then good for you, but if you were challenged legally on anything you've posted here, could you prove it? That's all i'm saying. I'm not trying to curb criticism of anyone, just trying to make everyone think before they post wild accusations here. I don't know how much more plain I can make that. You choose to ignore it and argue against it, that's up to you.

My job means I understand the laws of libel perfectly. I'm trying to give you a friendly heads-up, but you're not listening. That's completely up to you.

That's the problem with the AUWF - their inexplicable hatred for UW so blinds them they are quite prepared to say anyhting about UW, Which, IDs and even satisfied customers just to 'prove' that they are right and everyone else is wrong. If that means walking the fine line of the libel law then s be it.

What a way to be. If it wasn't so serious it would be laughable.

Quentin

Keggs complains this thread goes round in circles.

Where are these on the circle:-

Aug. 2008:

keggs wrote:

To save embarrassing you or myself or the utility warehouse itself any more I won't continue using this forum.

May 2009:

keggs wrote:

I'll say this once and once only. After your recent disgusting posts including this last one I have no intention of debating anything with you Quentin. You have only replied because I decided to post one last time.

Post your rubbish if you like but I for one will no longer get involved. This site is a joke and has been hijacked by people who have one single agenda. Instead of debating the merits of the Utility Warehouse it is about forcing UW distributors to defend themselves. I will no longer get involved and advise my fellow distributors to do the same.

Incidentally Quentin I have advised the owner of the networker plus site as to your misuse of information on his site. He is looking into it and will no doubt find a solution

(And what gave you the idea this thread was only provided so that reps could use it solely for "debating the merits of the Utility Warehouse" ?)

Quentin

keggs wrote: »

The real facts are UW is a decent company; its IDs are decent people and its customers are obviously getting a good deal for them because they are staying with the company. I've still got a customer who I signed up 10 years ago.

The evidence we have seen about the decency of uw when it comes to training their reps to manipulate and use friends to turn them into customers immediately questions what you mean by "decent".

http://www.networkerplus.co.uk/videos/practice-appointment-shannon-griffin.html

And what about the decency shown to others when reps are taught deceitful tricks:

eg. Conning people in the street that you are lost so that you can give them your card as a "thank you" for helping you.

eg. Conning people that they have been considerate when parking their car so that you can leave promotional literature on their car when in fact it was the rep who carefully selected where to park.


And now cynically manipulating the way they print off copies of the Which report "making the main body of text in the article too small to be easily read" so that Which's comment about the uw prices being expensive is not spotted by gullibles?

keggs

Quentin wrote: »

Keggs complains this thread goes round in circles.

Where are these on the circle:-

Aug. 2008:

May 2009:

(And what gave you the idea this thread was only provided so that reps could use it solely for "debating the merits of the Utility Warehouse" ?)

Give your keyboard and the rest of us a break Quentin. It's totally boring now. I've got better things to do than argue the toss with likes of you.

Quentin

keggs wrote: »

It might have come after your post I didn't actually bother to read it as I actually re read your previous post. So your 'red herring' can go back and swim.

No. You actually quoted the post you now claim "didn't actually bother to read"

Then produced your red herring (or was it spam) about your "new" forum.

Others will wonder why you always continue to protest your innocence when we can all see the evidence of your own contradictions!

(Another example was your denial that for a year you have been telling this forum you are making savings via the risky cashback card, when in fact you haven't even got one!)

keggs

uptomyeyeballs wrote: »

As i've said, my day job means I have a great understanding of the libel laws in this country. There are many here taking great risks, both on this board and other boards. I've tried to make some aware of the risks they take, but they take no notice. Not my problem.

I don't think they are going to take any notice even if you spelled it out for them. Perhaps your intervention might make everyone be a little more civil and and accepting of others points of view but I doubt it somehow.