Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

NigeWick

jimexbox wrote: »

just for me. Admit in public UW have expensive gas and electricity.

Why would you ask that? Carmine put up his requirements and asked for somebody to find him a cheaper deal than he can get with Utility Warehouse. Nobody has been able to do so after months. Utility Warehouse may not have the cheapest electricity and gas for many users, but, they do offer value for other users. Further, if one is prepared to shop the way I do, a person can pay less than with with any other company. It seems to me that you (and others) can not accept that different people have different requirements for energy and some of them can actually pay less to Utility Warehouse than they would to another company. There are probably very few "average" people that the comparison sites are aimed at. We are all different and what suits you does not fit in with my lifestyle. You are hopefully happy with your deals. Why can you not accept that others may be happy with Utility Warehouse?

1carminestocky

jimexbox wrote: »

Go carmine, just for me. Admit in public UW have expensive gas and electricity. Just say the truth without any personal caveats. Go on......

Go on jimexbox, just for me. Admit in public that you have it written in your contract of employment that you can make personal calls from work. Go on.....

jimexbox

1carminestocky wrote: »

Go on jimexbox, just for me. Admit in public that you have it written in your contract of employment that you can make personal calls from work. Go on.....

Are you accusing or inferring I committed fraud against my employer?

Its just you are unrelenting in your criticism of the 'big 6', yet Ive never read any criticism by you of UW, even though their energy prices are amongst the most expensive in the market.

Do you consider UW perfect and beyond criticism? Again for me, just admit a fact, which you can dispute if you wish, that UW offer the some of the highest tariffs in the UK.

NigeWick

jimexbox wrote: »

Do you consider UW perfect and beyond criticism? Again for me, just admit a fact, which you can dispute if you wish, that UW offer the some of the highest tariffs in the UK.

I do not consider Utility Warehouse to be perfect but they are better than many companies. I admit that Utility Warehouse may not be the cheapest for everybody. I dispute that Utility Warehouse offer Carmine among the highest highest tariffs in the UK.

Now will you admit that Utility Warehouse may be the cheapest for some people?

jimexbox

NigeWick wrote: »

Now will you admit that Utility Warehouse may be the cheapest for some people?

I would contend that UW supply the most expensive gas and electricity for most people, if not everyone. Yes, if you use the UW card heavily, its possible to reduce the cost of your energy, Ive never denied this.

Im simply stating that carmine heavily criticises the other 'big 6' and Ive never read any criticism whatsoever of UW. Not even a smidgen of one, nada, nothing, zilch, zero. Very odd that carmine cannot find anything wrong with UW, very odd indeed.

1carminestocky

jimexbox wrote: »

Are you accusing or inferring I committed fraud against my employer?

Its just you are unrelenting in your criticism of the 'big 6', yet Ive never read any criticism by you of UW, even though their energy prices are amongst the most expensive in the market.

Do you consider UW perfect and beyond criticism? Again for me, just admit a fact, which you can dispute if you wish, that UW offer the some of the highest tariffs in the UK.

I'm inferring nowt, jimexbox. Like you, I'm making a ridiculous request. To make you see how silly you are becoming. You make inferrences about me all the time with regard to me being a distributor. So you are effectively inferring I'm a liar. And that's not nice. I've made it entirely plain (in public) I'm not. Don't dish it out if you can't take it back.

Maz

jimexbox wrote: »

I would contend that UW supply the most expensive gas and electricity for most people, if not everyone. Yes, if you use the UW card heavily, its possible to reduce the cost of your energy, Ive never denied this.

Have to disagree with this. ALL my customers are making savings against their previous suppliers WITHOUT the use of the Cashback card.

That's a fact. You may not like it but there it is.

UW dist etc

NigeWick

jimexbox wrote: »

I would contend that UW supply the most expensive gas and electricity for most people

Where's your proof? On comparison sites, Utility Warehouse looks to be among the dearest for the users defined by the sites. Most people are likely to be still on the big companies' most expensive tariffs and could therefore save money by swapping to Utility Warehouse. Yes, they may be able to get even cheaper in given circumstances, but, many can have their cheapest electricity and gas with Utility Warehouse.

jimexbox

1carminestocky wrote: »

I'm inferring nowt, jimexbox. Like you, I'm making a ridiculous request. To make you see how silly you are becoming. You make inferrences about me all the time with regard to me being a distributor. So you are effectively inferring I'm a liar. And that's not nice. I've made it entirely plain (in public) I'm not. Don't dish it out if you can't take it back.

You criticise me for me honest! How ridiculous is that? I use Eon, I see the negative points of a company like Eon. You use UW, criticise the big 6 endlessly, yet you never criticise UW, why? Do you consider UW perfect? What aspects of UW, like aspects of traditional suppliers do you find intolerable?

Is that such a ridiculous question?

penrhyn

In case anyone would like some figures here are mine.

East Midlands Region, Gas 9000Kwh, Electricity 2000Kwh.

Incumbent suppliers are British Gas and EON, annual cost £685
Utility Warehouse Standard User, annual cost £631

My current deal,
British Gas Click 6 (Elec), Ebico (Gas), annual cost £537

Cheapest deal
nPower Sign on line Std Billing, annual cost £517

In summary, for me a low user,UW is cheaper than the standard tariffs offered by the incumbent suppliers but can be beat by a significant margin if you are prepared to go for the cheapest online tarrifs.

(All prices from the Energyhelpline website)