Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

vinnyph

I am surprised quentin has forgotten about the cashback card. I guess because he has stopped trying to attack that he must be ok with it now.

Now it's sales in general he attacks. The techniques he attacks are actually ones that have been taught to all companies.

Sales has been around since the dawn of civilisation. It was sales that allowed for civilisation. Without getting something off someone else you would have to get it yourself. To have trade you have to have sales.

So it seems that people who don't like sales never buy anything.

I guess quentin must live down a hole like a hobbit. There are some strange hairy footed folk around his parts no doubt.

vinnyph

cynic rhymes with clinic.

1carminestocky

Of course, jimexbox is not exactly 100% happy with the way his energy supplier of choice, E.on, conduct their business. :eek:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.html?p=20060963&postcount=25

Im going to give it a few weeks to let all the new 'price reductions' take effect, then leave Eon. As an Eon customer for many years Im very disappointed by their deceptive skewed price reductions. What do they take us for? Obviously complete muppets.

Im paying well over a grand a year to be treated with utter contempt. As to 'caps', forget capping their profit, although Eon certainly know how to 'cap' their price reduction. How? By giving me a generous 18% cut on my primary units, capped at first 900 kWhs. Then a frankly pathetic 1% cut on any secondary units I use. If they had applied the much vaunted 9% cut across both I would be better off, but thats to clear and simple for folk to understand. Far better to use a little smoke, a mirror here and there to create a little confusion amongst the punters.

Vote with your feet and leave..........

vinnyph

Some people have a problem with me earning money for doing work. I don't have a problem with me earning money for doing work. I don't have a problem.

Everyone earns off someone else no matter what job they do. So to say its not right to earn off someone else is to say that its wrong to earn in the first place.

I take it they work for nothing then. If they didn't they would be a hypocrite.

It is a circular argument with no axiom. (This statement will be lost to them)

Do they earn off the tax that tax payers pay.

1carminestocky

Similarly, I'm hoping the detractors also work for a company that supplies the very cheapest product of its type on the market or how can they justify working for them given their views in this thread??

vinnyph

Now Jime xbox kid who lives at home with his parents wants to act the same as when he was at school.

Quentin is the rumour spreading bully, and Jime is the small kid who stands behind the bully and says, "yeh take that" every time the bully says something against someone else. He has become Quentin's sidekick.

Decado23

Quentin wrote: »

Article here on MLM/Pyramid selling:

http://www.moneyweb.co.uk/essays/internet/pyramid.html

This extract does sound like the way uw works as shown in their martini presentation

A pyramid presentation may take many forms, but there is one thing that they all have in common, they will draw charts showing vast wealth in short time, from, it would appear, quite modest numbers of people in your downline.

While we are on the subject of cynical manipulation and intentionally misleading statements, the above quote is a perfect example.

See how the carefully selected quote and quentin's statements imply UW is an illegal pyramid scam.

some more quotes from the same article, but ignored by quentin as they do not support his view...

"Multi Level Marketing is a perfectly valid and effective way of distributing product to the end user, just as is direct mail, off the page, and even , through shops."

"The difference between a genuine Multi Level Marketing business opportunity and a scam is that the MLM scheme has END USERS. People who ACTUALLY BUY THE PRODUCT."

These statements both apply 100% to UW.


UW distributor

Quentin

Mike_by_the_Sea wrote: »

You think that because you go to a distributor site and post a link to here that it proves anything...... I find it very sad that you would think that this is the profile of a "uw distributor".

You are trying to suggest that the link posted is from a "distributor site".

The idea presumably being to "manipulate our minds" that what is being said by the video (to ring up your friends and mislead them into thinking you need their help as a friend when your objective is to sign them up to 4 products) isn't the uw way of doing things, just one rogue distributor.

But as often happens with uw reps, the post is misleading.

That link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFyaiWOSXrE&feature=channel) to the youtube video is not to a distributor site at all.

It turns out it is in fact the utility warehouse's website who have taken it from youtube and has lots of training videos on it uw reps are urged to view.

On the same site, for some reason they urge the reps to view the big al video (http://www.networkerplus.co.uk/videos/rejection-free-presentation-big-al.html) time and time again????

This is an outstanding video and essential viewing (again and again) for anyone wishing to stop working hard and start working effectively!

Decado23

Quentin wrote: »

You are trying to suggest that the link posted is from a "distributor site".

Quentin wrote: »

But as often happens with uw reps, the post is misleading.

Quentin wrote: »

It turns out it is in fact the utility warehouse's website and has lots of training videos on it uw reps are urged to view.

false accusations and more (intentional?) miss-information from quenting.

from the networkerplus front page-

"Utility Warehouse (Telecom plus)
Independent Distributor - online support...
...a site by distributors for the benefit of distributors"

I happen to have met the INDEPENDENT distributor who runs the site. Nice chap.


UW distributor

vinnyph

Quentin will soon be suggesting UW ask us to use voodoo doll's if our friends don't sign.