Parking Eye Parking Charge Notice

halibut2209

OP ignore the previous user. He is one of the aforementioned scammers

notts_phil

halibut2209 wrote: »

OP ignore the previous user. He is one of the aforementioned scammers

Which one does he work for i wonder?

give_them_FA

Cannot even spell bailiff. Not a typo as that's how he spells it on all his posts. Watch out now for all the edits!

Take no notice of this very obvious troll. A parking company owner indulging in their usual tactics of trying to threaten and bully.

lawabidingcitizen1

Thanks for that. Will correct future.

lawabidingcitizen1

Thanks also Notts_phil for the Mike Perkins reference. A quick google search has led me to an article in the Shorpshire Star entitled 'Court Told of Signs Parking Wrangle'.

Go have a read for yourselves.

It seems a deputy district judge considers that private parking fines are in fact not a scam!

lawabidingcitizen1

give_them_FA wrote: »

Cannot even spell bailiff. Not a typo as that's how he spells it on all his posts. Watch out now for all the edits!

Take no notice of this very obvious troll. A parking company owner indulging in their usual tactics of trying to threaten and bully.

by the way... if I was a parking company employee, then surely I should know how to spell bailiff?

give_them_FA

Forum users please note: the poster known as lawabidingcitizen is a parking company troll. Please do not take any advice offered by him since it is designed purely to benefit himself and not you.

lawabidingcitizen1

It is important that forum users know the facts.

1. Parking companies do take non-payers to court.
2. When the parking companies have been operating within the guidelines of the industry, they win their cases.
3. Defendants have been asked to pay, not just the fine, but also court costs on top, which can run into the thousands
4. People on this forum saying don't pay are fact not helping anyone as this puts those that take the advice at risk of having to pay far more than the original fine.
5. If you really want to help someone, tell them the truth and let them make up their own minds with the correct information.

trisontana

lawabidingcitizen1 wrote: »

It is important that forum users know the facts.

1. Parking companies do take non-payers to court.
2. When the parking companies have been operating within the guidelines of the industry, they win their cases.
3. Defendants have been asked to pay, not just the fine, but also court costs on top, which can run into the thousands
4. People on this forum saying don't pay are fact not helping anyone as this puts those that take the advice at risk of having to pay far more than the original fine.
5. If you really want to help someone, tell them the truth and let them make up their own minds with the correct information.

Hot off the press - decision of the Upper Tax Tribunal in the case of VCS v HMRC:-

The appeal tribunal held:

1. VCS did not have any right to occupy land or to pursue any action in trespass (which is what VCS had claimed they were doing).
2. Such payments they received by way of "Parking Charge Notices" were not therefore a payment by way of damages and were not therefore exempt from VAT.
3. That on the basis of their standard agreement with landowners there could have been no contract formed between VCS and the motorist because its limited rights to access to the land did not extend to being able to offer the right to park.
4. The signs used by VCS cannot have effect because they have no right in law to make any offer to park in the first instance.
5. Any contract to park could only be formed between the landowner and the motorist
6. Any parking charges collected by VCS would therefore be, in effective, damages in breach of contract or trespass but because they were retained by VCS they constituted a standard-rated consideration and VAT was therefore payable against them.

Half_way

Lawabidingcitizen, Re point 4, how can it be a fine if issued by a private company? im sure that you know that private companys can not issue fines, and can only sue for legitamate losses.